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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 'Karl Fogel' <kfogel@red-bean.com>, 12507@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs?
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:31:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4phqw2y.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <058D07630DCF42C18CA45AB3E07C0BF5@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:00:54 -0700")

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>
> This kind of comes back to Thierry's suggestion that we might want to come up
> with a version of `write-region', which does not visit the file it writes to,
> that also backs up that file first.  Or to do something similar.
Just to clarify (I am not sure what mean "come up"):

My final proposition is:

(with-current-buffer (find-file-no-select FILE) ; [1]
  ;; 2) erase-buffer
  ;; 3) write DATA => bookmark-alist
  ;; 4) let-bound version-control to bookmark-version-control
  (save-buffer) [5]

In [1] I still not understanding what is this paranoia about "visiting
file" specially for this file that no body want to edit manually:
bookmark save bookmark-alist in file in two different ways:
- Immidiately when you bookmark something.
- When emacs quit if bookmark-alist have been modified.
So the file should never hang in a non--saved state at any point.

In [4] if you remove bookmark-version-control, this don't mean the file
will not be backed up, hopefully `version-control' will do its job.
But it doesn't arm to keep bookmark-version-control.

In [5], if you use [1] (i.e find-file-no-select) you don't want to use
`write-file' because it use `set-visited-file-name'; you don't need it
because find-file-no-select do it, so save-buffer is enough.

So I don't understand why there is an interminable discussion on such
simple changes.

-- 
  Thierry
Get my Gnupg key:
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 





  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-02  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel

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