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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Thierry Volpiatto'" <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>,
	<12507@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:37:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9D98A7802F07462887BCC67BE194243B@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sja4t48j.fsf@gmail.com>

> >>   ;; Don't use write-file; we don't want this buffer to visit it.
> >
> > After write-file, the buffer is marked as visiting that file, which
> > affects the behavior of C-x C-f and a lot more (e.g. asks the user
> > for confirmation if the file was modified by some other process, ...).
>
> What about improving write-region to use backup when needed?
> Possibly writing a new write-region-something function that handle
> backup, or a write-file-noselect function.

+1

And please let us know how best to accomplish that (in the doc perhaps, but also
in this thread).

It's not clear to me how to make a backup copy of a file without visiting that
file in some buffer, however temporarily.

For example, I can imagine this as a way to append the region to a file and back
it up:

 (write-region (point-min) (point-max) FILE 'append)
 (with-current-buffer (find-file-noselect FILE) (backup-buffer))

But IIUC `find-file-noselect' visits the buffer (and so "asks the user for
confirmation if the file was modified by some other process").  So that's
apparently not the way to go.  What is?

Leaving the question of visiting aside for the moment, what about
`backup-buffer' here?  Should it be `save-buffer' instead, so that the modes of
FILE get updated properly?  Should it be just `basic-save-buffer-1' instead of
`save-buffer'?

And should any such code take what Juri mentioned wrt vc into account?  If so,
how?

It's not clear to me how best to handle this
write-stuff-to-a-file-and-back-it-up-when-appropriate, but I (and perhaps
others) would like to learn.  I haven't found the answer by looking at the
manuals or perusing the source code.  Can you help?

Thx.






  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-27 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel

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