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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com>
Cc: Tony Zorman <soliditsallgood@mailbox.org>,
	60418@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 09:06:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874jpq920b.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qku220f.fsf@betli.tmit.bme.hu> (Felician Nemeth's message of "Sat, 08 Apr 2023 10:48:16 +0200")

Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>   One has to keep in mind that by default you will be checking out the tip
>>>>>   of the default development branch.  [...]
>
>>>> Maybe use-package's package-vc integration should use more sensible
>>>> defaults then?  But if people don't like this feature, I personally
>>>> won't press the issue further.
>>>
>>> I am afraid I don't know what you mean by more sensible?  My central
>>> point is that I wouldn't want to encourage people to download packages
>>> using package-vc by default.
>
> The integration of package-vc with use-package makes a bit easier what's
> already possible.
>
> One possible way to mitigate the problem of running instable code is to
> check out the commit with the latest tag.  (I don't know how feasible is
> to implement this.)  

package-vc can check out the latest revision that bumped the version tag
(which is what {Non,}GNU ELPA uses to create new versions of a package),
you just need to call `package-vc-install' with `:last-release' as REV.
So the technical means are there.

But if this is done, the question what advantage this has over just
installing a tarball this has?  You would almost always get the same
code.

>                      Alternatively, use-package cloud refuse a :vc
> keyword if an additional :i-know-this-is-in-development-code keyword was
> not set.

Just to clarify, I am not vetoing anything here.  If the functionality
is added to use-package (which is up to the use-package maintainers to
decide), then I don't think users need to be infantilized with these
kinds of little ceremonies.  All I want to understand is the motivation
behind this feature in the first place.

-- 
Philip Kaludercic





  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-08  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-29 18:43 bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found] ` <handler.60418.B.167238381823776.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2023-01-14 12:48   ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-31 14:13     ` Felician Nemeth
2023-03-31 15:38       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-07 14:11         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08  8:48           ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08  9:06             ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2023-04-08  9:25               ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08 10:41                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-11 14:10                   ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-12  7:12                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12  7:34                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12  9:00                     ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 15:43                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17 19:39                           ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-18 12:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:38                               ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-22  9:26                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 11:34                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23  5:51                                     ` John Wiegley
2023-04-22 11:32                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23  6:07                                   ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23 12:35                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-24 12:36                                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 19:43                                         ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 20:01                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-02 13:18                                             ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 13:59                                               ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-02 15:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:36                                             ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 12:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:22                                             ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 15:16                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04  8:13                                                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-04 10:39                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:04                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05  5:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:49                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05  6:53                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 17:15                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 18:45                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 18:50                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:13                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  7:34                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:39                                                                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-07  8:52                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-16 19:30                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-17  5:42                                                                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:18                         ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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