From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: soliditsallgood@mailbox.org, felician.nemeth@gmail.com,
60418@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package
Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 08:36:31 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ild7jq5c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878re3cqro.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Fri, 05 May 2023 05:04:59 +0000)
> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 60418@debbugs.gnu.org,
> felician.nemeth@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 05:04:59 +0000
>
> Tony Zorman <soliditsallgood@mailbox.org> writes:
>
> > You're right, but I don't think I'm using them as synonyms. There is a
> > big difference between
> >
> > (package-vc-install "foo")
> >
> > which installs the latest "commit" (or revision, which I'm actually
> > using as a synonym to commit) of a package, and
> >
> > (package-vc-install "foo" :last-release)
> >
> > which installs the latest "release". A release, as defined by
> > package-vc.el seems to be 'the latest revision that bumps the "Version"
> > tag.' It is queried in the package-vc--release-rev function, and
> > actually retrieved in vc-retrieve-tag. The "Version" tag is, I think,
> > just the "Version: XXX" string that's specified in the top comment of
> > the main elisp file of the respective repository.
>
> How about we just say "the commit of the latest release"?
When package-vc-install is used, what is "the latest release"? isn't
that the HEAD of the default branch? IOW, what about packages that
make no releases at all?
> >> All I know is that when I've read the documentation you wrote, I asked
> >> myself "what is meant by 'release' here?" I found the answer when you
> >> later wrote "last commit".
> >>
> >> Are you talking about commits? More generally, what kind of "release
> >> IDs" does :rev accept as its valid value?
> >
> > The :rev keyword accepts the same as REV of package-vc-install, which is
> > either
> >
> > - nil, signaling that the latest commit should be installed,
> >
> > - :last-release, signaling that the last release should be installed,
> > or
> >
> > - a "version string" appropriate for the respective version control
> > system, specifying that version (e.g., a specific commit hash).
>
> All correct.
>
> >> I understand that the same confusion could exist elsewhere, but that
> >> doesn't mean we should proliferate it or even live with what we have.
> >> We should instead clarify this in every place where we use this
> >> terminology.
> >>
> >> So let's figure out what are these "releases", and then let's examine
> >> the existing and the new documentation and see if we need to get our
> >> terminology right there.
> >
> > I totally agree, and I think the fact that "release" means "when has the
> > release version as specified in the main .el file changed" should be
> > documented somewhere (if it is I didn't see it). Sorry that this has
> > caused so much confusion.
>
> Are there any other places where we can fix this confusion?
I guess the documentation of package-vc-install shares these issues?
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2022-12-29 18:43 bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2023-01-14 12:48 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-31 14:13 ` Felician Nemeth
2023-03-31 15:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-07 14:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08 8:48 ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08 9:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08 9:25 ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08 10:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-11 14:10 ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-12 7:12 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 7:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 9:00 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 15:43 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17 19:39 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-18 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:38 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-22 9:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 11:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23 5:51 ` John Wiegley
2023-04-22 11:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23 6:07 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23 12:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-24 12:36 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 19:43 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 20:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-02 13:18 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 13:59 ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-02 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:36 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:22 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 8:13 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-04 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 5:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 5:36 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-05-05 5:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2023-05-05 17:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 18:50 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 7:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:39 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-07 8:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-16 19:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
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