From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com>
Cc: Tony Zorman <soliditsallgood@mailbox.org>,
60418@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 15:38:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs9l9bim.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5zt2emd.fsf@betli.tmit.bme.hu> (Felician Nemeth's message of "Fri, 31 Mar 2023 16:13:14 +0200")
Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com> writes:
> merge 60418 61937
> thanks
>
> (I hope the above works, I've never merged bugs before.)
>
> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> I have to admit that I am not a fan of this [adding package-vc support
>> to use-package]. Personally I install all my packages using regular
>> tarballs, and then manually select packages that I want to track in
>> source-form if I am interested in contributing a patch.
>>
>> One has to keep in mind that by default you will be checking out the tip
>> of the default development branch. This is not what GNU ELPA and NonGNU
>> ELPA do. I know *some other* archives do this, but IMO this contributes
>> to the instability that a lot of Emacs users experience in regards to
>> the packages in the Emacs world. Coincidentally I also believe that the
>> popularity of alternative (non-cooperative) package managers like this
>> "straight.el" boils down to the promise of being able to pin and revert
>> to previous packages states. Personally I believe that this is an
>> up-side-down approach to solve the problem from the wrong angle. The
>> default approach to package management should be reliable and suffice.
>
> I think Pandora's box is already open with having package-vc.
>
> Maybe use-package's package-vc integration should use more sensible
> defaults then? But if people don't like this feature, I personally
> won't press the issue further.
I am afraid I don't know what you mean by more sensible? My central
point is that I wouldn't want to encourage people to download packages
using package-vc by default.
--
Philip Kaludercic
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2022-12-29 18:43 bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2023-04-11 14:10 ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-12 7:12 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 7:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2023-04-16 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17 19:39 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2023-04-19 17:38 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-22 9:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 11:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23 5:51 ` John Wiegley
2023-04-22 11:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23 6:07 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2023-04-24 12:36 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 19:43 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 20:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-02 13:18 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 13:59 ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-02 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:36 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-05-02 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 8:13 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-04 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 5:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2023-05-05 5:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 17:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 18:50 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 7:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:39 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-07 8:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-16 19:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-17 5:42 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:18 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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