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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com>
Cc: Tony Zorman <soliditsallgood@mailbox.org>,
	60418@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 15:38:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs9l9bim.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5zt2emd.fsf@betli.tmit.bme.hu> (Felician Nemeth's message of "Fri, 31 Mar 2023 16:13:14 +0200")

Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com> writes:

> merge 60418 61937
> thanks
>
> (I hope the above works, I've never merged bugs before.)
>
> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>
>>   I have to admit that I am not a fan of this [adding package-vc support
>>   to use-package].  Personally I install all my packages using regular
>>   tarballs, and then manually select packages that I want to track in
>>   source-form if I am interested in contributing a patch.
>>
>>   One has to keep in mind that by default you will be checking out the tip
>>   of the default development branch.  This is not what GNU ELPA and NonGNU
>>   ELPA do.  I know *some other* archives do this, but IMO this contributes
>>   to the instability that a lot of Emacs users experience in regards to
>>   the packages in the Emacs world.  Coincidentally I also believe that the
>>   popularity of alternative (non-cooperative) package managers like this
>>   "straight.el" boils down to the promise of being able to pin and revert
>>   to previous packages states.  Personally I believe that this is an
>>   up-side-down approach to solve the problem from the wrong angle.  The
>>   default approach to package management should be reliable and suffice.
>
> I think Pandora's box is already open with having package-vc.
>
> Maybe use-package's package-vc integration should use more sensible
> defaults then?  But if people don't like this feature, I personally
> won't press the issue further.

I am afraid I don't know what you mean by more sensible?  My central
point is that I wouldn't want to encourage people to download packages
using package-vc by default.

-- 
Philip Kaludercic





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-31 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-29 18:43 bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found] ` <handler.60418.B.167238381823776.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2023-01-14 12:48   ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-31 14:13     ` Felician Nemeth
2023-03-31 15:38       ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2023-04-07 14:11         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08  8:48           ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08  9:06             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08  9:25               ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08 10:41                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-11 14:10                   ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-12  7:12                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12  7:34                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12  9:00                     ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 15:43                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17 19:39                           ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-18 12:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:38                               ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-22  9:26                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 11:34                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23  5:51                                     ` John Wiegley
2023-04-22 11:32                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23  6:07                                   ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23 12:35                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-24 12:36                                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 19:43                                         ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 20:01                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-02 13:18                                             ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 13:59                                               ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-02 15:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:36                                             ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 12:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:22                                             ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 15:16                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04  8:13                                                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-04 10:39                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:04                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05  5:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:49                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05  6:53                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 17:15                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 18:45                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 18:50                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:13                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  7:34                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:39                                                                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-07  8:52                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-16 19:30                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-17  5:42                                                                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:18                         ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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