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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: soliditsallgood@mailbox.org, felician.nemeth@gmail.com,
	60418@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package
Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 21:45:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v8h6hb2q.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wn1mlmwx.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Fri, 05 May 2023 17:15:42 +0000)

> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> Cc: soliditsallgood@mailbox.org,  60418@debbugs.gnu.org,
>   felician.nemeth@gmail.com,  stefankangas@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 17:15:42 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> No, the commit of the latest release is interpreted the same way as
> >> elpa-admin.el does, namely the last revision that modified the "Version"
> >> header.  If no such commit can be found, then a message is printed out
> >> and the installation continues under the assumption that the package is
> >> using a rolling-release model.
> >
> > I thought package-vc-install is used (or at least can be used) to
> > fetch the latest HEAD from the upstream repository?  I even thought
> > this was its main raison d'être?
> >
> > If that's not true, does it mean we have no means for package users to
> > track the latest development code of a package?
> 
> This is true, for package-vc-install, but the idea was not do this for
> the :vc keyword to use-package.

But I wrote the above as a comment to a patch to package-vc.el, not to
use-package.  So why use-package is relevant here?

> My understanding is that the main
> interest here is to install packages that are not available via package
> archives.  And as use-package is a popular means of bootstrapping a
> configuration, it seems the right approach to use the commit of the
> latest revision, instead of just any commit to avoid instability.

My understanding is that the :rev keyword allows to use any value that
is acceptable to package-vc-install.  I understand that in most cases
users will want to install the latest, but once we decided to support
:rev, we must allow any valid value there.  Right?

>    By default, this function installs the last revision of the
>    package available from its repository.  If REV is a string, it
>    describes the revision to install, as interpreted by the VC
>    backend.  The special value `:last-release' (interactively, the
>    prefix argument), will use the commit of the latest release, if
>    it exists.  The latest revision is determined by the latest
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"last release", not "latest revision": you are explaining what the
previous sentence said.

>    revision to modify the \"Version\" header of the main file.
> 
> But I couldn't come up with an elegant way to avoid the passive voice in
> the last sentence.

Here's one way:

  The last release is the latest revision which changed the
  \"Version:\" header of the package's main Lisp file.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-05 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-29 18:43 bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found] ` <handler.60418.B.167238381823776.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2023-01-14 12:48   ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-31 14:13     ` Felician Nemeth
2023-03-31 15:38       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-07 14:11         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08  8:48           ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08  9:06             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08  9:25               ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-08 10:41                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-11 14:10                   ` Felician Nemeth
2023-04-12  7:12                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12  7:34                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12  9:00                     ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 15:43                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17 19:39                           ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-18 12:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:38                               ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-22  9:26                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 11:34                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23  5:51                                     ` John Wiegley
2023-04-22 11:32                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23  6:07                                   ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23 12:35                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-24 12:36                                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 19:43                                         ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 20:01                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-02 13:18                                             ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 13:59                                               ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-02 15:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:36                                             ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 12:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-02 14:22                                             ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 15:16                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04  8:13                                                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-04 10:39                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:04                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05  5:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:49                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05  6:53                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 17:15                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 18:45                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-05-06 18:50                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:13                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  7:34                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:39                                                                 ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-07  8:52                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-16 19:30                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-17  5:42                                                                       ` Tony Zorman via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-16 16:18                         ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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