unofficial mirror of bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>
Cc: 24603@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24603: [RFC 15/18] Base lower- and upper-case tests on Unicode properties
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:54:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fuocob89.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1475543441-10493-15-git-send-email-mina86@mina86.com> (message from Michal Nazarewicz on Tue, 4 Oct 2016 03:10:38 +0200)

> From: Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>
> Date: Tue,  4 Oct 2016 03:10:38 +0200
> 
> +** 'upper' and 'lower' character classes are unaffected by case table
> +since they are now based purely on Unicode properties.

This is actually a backward-incompatible change, isn't it?  If so, it
should be in the corresponding section of NEWS.  More importantly,
there should be a way to get back the old behavior, i.e. to force
'upper' and 'lower' use the current case tables.

Better yet, can we use the Unicode properties only where case tables
are insufficient, like in the case of ligatures being broken up into
individual characters by case conversions?  That'd be
backward-compatible, so won't risk breaking existing code.

I'm also okay with a defcustom, by default off, to prefer the Unicode
data, as you did, so that we could in the future make this the default
behavior.  But doing this right now without any transition period and
no way of going back is too radical, I think.

Please also note that Unicode tables are global, very large, and in
many cases tricky to change from Lisp (as compared to simple
char-tables).  So customizing the case conversions that are based
solely on the Unicode tables is much harder and/or has global
implications, unlike the case tables.  With that in mind, I think we
should make the transition smoother, and we should probably add
convenience APIs for customizing the case conversions the Unicode way,
before we switch to that as the default.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-04  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-04  1:05 bug#24603: [RFC 00/18] Improvement to casing Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10 ` bug#24603: [RFC 01/18] Add tests for casefiddle.c Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 02/18] Generate upcase and downcase tables from Unicode data Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04 14:54       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04 15:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04 16:57           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04 17:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04 17:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-06 20:29                 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-07  6:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 03/18] Don’t assume character can be either upper- or lower-case when casing Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 04/18] Split casify_object into multiple functions Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 05/18] Introduce case_character function Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 06/18] Add support for title-casing letters Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 07/18] Split up casify_region function Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-18  2:27       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 08/18] Support casing characters which map into multiple code points Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-06 21:40       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-07  7:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 23:48           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-02-10  9:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 09/18] Implement special sigma casing rule Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 10/18] Implement Turkic dotless and dotted i handling when casing strings Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 11/18] Implement casing rules for Lithuanian Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 12/18] Implement rules for title-casing Dutch ij ‘letter’ Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 13/18] Add some tricky Unicode characters to regex test Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 14/18] Factor out character category lookup to separate function Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 15/18] Base lower- and upper-case tests on Unicode properties Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  6:54     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 16/18] Refactor character class checking; optimise ASCII case Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-17 13:22       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-11-06 19:26       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-11-06 19:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-20 14:32           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-12-20 16:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-22 14:02               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 17/18] Optimise character class matching in regexes Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 18/18] Fix case-fold-search character class matching Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03 ` bug#24603: [PATCH 0/3] Case table updates Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 1/3] Add tests for casefiddle.c Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 2/3] Generate upcase and downcase tables from Unicode data Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 3/3] Don’t generate ‘X maps to X’ entries in case tables Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-18  6:36   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 0/3] Case table updates Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 15:11     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-24 15:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51 ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 00/11] Casing improvements Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 01/11] Split casify_object into multiple functions Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-10  9:00     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 02/11] Introduce case_character function Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 03/11] Add support for title-casing letters (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 04/11] Split up casify_region function (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 05/11] Support casing characters which map into multiple code points (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-21  2:09       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 06/11] Implement special sigma casing rule (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 07/11] Introduce ‘buffer-language’ buffer-locar variable Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 08/11] Implement rules for title-casing Dutch ij ‘letter’ (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-16 21:30       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-17 13:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 09/11] Implement Turkic dotless and dotted i casing rules (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 10/11] Implement casing rules for Lithuanian (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 11/11] Implement Irish casing rules (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-16 22:16       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-17  8:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 10:00   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 00/11] Casing improvements Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-21  1:27   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 0/6] Casing improvements, language-independent part Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 1/6] Split casify_object into multiple functions Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 2/6] Introduce case_character function Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 3/6] Add support for title-casing letters (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 4/6] Split up casify_region function (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 5/6] Support casing characters which map into multiple code points (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-22 16:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-03  9:01         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-04-03 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25  0:09           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-25  0:29             ` Michał Nazarewicz
2020-08-11 13:46               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-10 11:51                 ` bug#24603: [RFC 00/18] Improvement to casing Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 6/6] Implement special sigma casing rule (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=83fuocob89.fsf@gnu.org \
    --to=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=24603@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=mina86@mina86.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).