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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>
Cc: 24603@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24603: [PATCHv5 08/11] Implement rules for title-casing Dutch ij ‘letter’ (bug#24603)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 11:40:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a88sdudb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170309215150.9562-9-mina86@mina86.com> (message from Michal Nazarewicz on Thu, 9 Mar 2017 22:51:47 +0100)

> From: Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>
> Date: Thu,  9 Mar 2017 22:51:47 +0100
> 
> +    /* In Dutch, ‘ij’ is a digraph and when capitalised the whole thing is upper
> +       cased.  Unicode has ‘ij’ and ‘IJ’ (with proper casing mappings) but they
> +       aren’t always used so we cannot/should not rely on them.
> +
> +       Note that rule for capitalising ‘ij’ as a single letter is not present in
> +       Unicode 9.0’s SpecialCasing.txt.  On the flip side, Firefox implements
> +       this as well so we’re not completely alone.

If this is not mandated by Unicode 9.0 (and not by the latest draft of
10.0, AFAICS), shouldn't we have a user option for this, by default
off?

> +       There are words where ‘ij’ are two separate letters (such as bijectie or
> +       bijoux) in which case the capitalisation rules do not apply.  I (mina86)
> +       have googled this a little and couldn’t find a Dutch word which beings
> +       with ‘ij’ that is not a digraph so we should be in the clear since we
> +       only care about the initial. */

I'm not sure I get this right: does this mean that writing in English
(or any other non-Dutch language) in a Dutch locale will automatically
capitalize "ij" to "IJ", just because the default value of
buffer-language is "nl_NL" or somesuch, and no specific language was
set for the buffer?  Wouldn't that surprise users?





  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-11  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-04  1:05 bug#24603: [RFC 00/18] Improvement to casing Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10 ` bug#24603: [RFC 01/18] Add tests for casefiddle.c Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 02/18] Generate upcase and downcase tables from Unicode data Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04 14:54       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04 15:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04 16:57           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04 17:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04 17:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-06 20:29                 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-07  6:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 03/18] Don’t assume character can be either upper- or lower-case when casing Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 04/18] Split casify_object into multiple functions Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 05/18] Introduce case_character function Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 06/18] Add support for title-casing letters Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 07/18] Split up casify_region function Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-18  2:27       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 08/18] Support casing characters which map into multiple code points Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-06 21:40       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-07  7:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 23:48           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-02-10  9:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 09/18] Implement special sigma casing rule Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 10/18] Implement Turkic dotless and dotted i handling when casing strings Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 11/18] Implement casing rules for Lithuanian Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 12/18] Implement rules for title-casing Dutch ij ‘letter’ Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 13/18] Add some tricky Unicode characters to regex test Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 14/18] Factor out character category lookup to separate function Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 15/18] Base lower- and upper-case tests on Unicode properties Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  6:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 16/18] Refactor character class checking; optimise ASCII case Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  7:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-17 13:22       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-11-06 19:26       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-11-06 19:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-20 14:32           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-12-20 16:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-22 14:02               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 17/18] Optimise character class matching in regexes Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-04  1:10   ` bug#24603: [RFC 18/18] Fix case-fold-search character class matching Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03 ` bug#24603: [PATCH 0/3] Case table updates Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 1/3] Add tests for casefiddle.c Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 2/3] Generate upcase and downcase tables from Unicode data Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-17 22:03   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 3/3] Don’t generate ‘X maps to X’ entries in case tables Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-18  6:36   ` bug#24603: [PATCH 0/3] Case table updates Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-24 15:11     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2016-10-24 15:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51 ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 00/11] Casing improvements Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 01/11] Split casify_object into multiple functions Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-10  9:00     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 02/11] Introduce case_character function Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 03/11] Add support for title-casing letters (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 04/11] Split up casify_region function (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 05/11] Support casing characters which map into multiple code points (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-21  2:09       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 06/11] Implement special sigma casing rule (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 07/11] Introduce ‘buffer-language’ buffer-locar variable Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 08/11] Implement rules for title-casing Dutch ij ‘letter’ (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:40     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-03-16 21:30       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-17 13:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 09/11] Implement Turkic dotless and dotted i casing rules (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 10/11] Implement casing rules for Lithuanian (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-09 21:51   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 11/11] Implement Irish casing rules (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-11  9:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-16 22:16       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-17  8:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 10:00   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv5 00/11] Casing improvements Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-21  1:27   ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 0/6] Casing improvements, language-independent part Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 1/6] Split casify_object into multiple functions Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 2/6] Introduce case_character function Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 3/6] Add support for title-casing letters (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 4/6] Split up casify_region function (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 5/6] Support casing characters which map into multiple code points (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz
2017-03-22 16:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-03  9:01         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2017-04-03 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25  0:09           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-25  0:29             ` Michał Nazarewicz
2020-08-11 13:46               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-10 11:51                 ` bug#24603: [RFC 00/18] Improvement to casing Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-03-21  1:27     ` bug#24603: [PATCHv6 6/6] Implement special sigma casing rule (bug#24603) Michal Nazarewicz

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