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From: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using a CDN or some other mirror?
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 12:46:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4dedc20-8ba2-26a4-3446-43e3676815e6@crazy-compilers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87woop1j5z.fsf@gnu.org>

Am 04.12.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> We shouldn’t take it for granted that public institutes will
> happily host our stuff and donate hardware

I would not expect them nor take for granted that some organization will
host and even donate a build-farm. This is indeed very generous from MDC,

As you wrote, we are in need of storage. What I'm suggesting is:

Many, many organizations support open source projects by donating
disk-space and bandwidth in form of a mirror. Supporters are internet
providers, universities, publicly founded organizations  and companies.
In former time this have been ftp-mirrors (later with an
http-interface), in the meanwhile the larger ones support rsync, too.
And many Software projects are using these kind of servers for mirroring
their software. The only restriction is that these mirrors are serving
static files only. (I assume you all know.)

> In the meantime, we need redundant storage, high bandwidth, and high
> availability.  If you know of non-profit organizations that can provide
> such services, please let us know; if not, we’ll resort to a commercial
> service.  The bottom line is: we cannot reasonably pretend to offer such
> a service ourselves.

One could get in touch with the administrators of some of the mirrors
used by other distributions. [1] has a list of Mirrors for Fedora,
including location and bandwidth. [2] is a list of mirrors used by the
community driven distribution Mageia, additionally including the
"upstream" - which might help prioritizing.

When approaching some of these server admins, we should pass them some
relevant information like expected storage demand, expected transfer
traffic from upstream, how often updates are published, how long to hold
copies, can we provide a rsync server access, etc.

I can approach two or three organizations I know of (but don't have any
contact) if I have some information to provide. A cover letter would
help a lot. For getting in tough with universities somebody working at
an university might have better chances :-)

[1] Fedora 28:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/mirrors/Fedora/28
[2] Mageia: https://mirrors.mageia.org/
[3] Debian "Secondary mirrors" in https://www.debian.org/mirror/list

-- 
+++hartmut

| Hartmut Goebel            |                       |
| hartmut@goebel-consult.de | www.goebel-consult.de |

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-05 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-03 15:43 [PATCH 0/3] Defaulting to ci.guix.info (aka. berlin.guixsd.org) Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-03 16:12 ` Using a CDN or some other mirror? Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-03 20:47   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-12-04 10:40   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-12-04 14:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-04 17:03       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-12-04 17:58       ` Thompson, David
2018-12-05  2:32       ` Meiyo Peng
2018-12-05  5:38         ` Leo Famulari
2018-12-05 10:59         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-12-05 11:46       ` Hartmut Goebel [this message]
2018-12-07 14:05         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-09  9:44           ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-12-04 21:15     ` ng0
2018-12-04 21:50       ` Thompson, David
2018-12-05  9:28         ` ng0
2018-12-09  3:33   ` Chris Marusich
2018-12-09 12:12     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-12-09 13:58       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-11 16:38         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-12-11 16:38           ` [bug#33600] " Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-12-14  8:35         ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-12-14  8:35           ` [bug#33600] " Hartmut Goebel
2018-12-14  9:02           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-12-14 14:48             ` Compressing nars with lzip or similar Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-14 14:48               ` [bug#33600] " Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-14 15:21               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-12-15 12:17                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-12-15 18:06                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-15 18:06                     ` [bug#33600] " Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-05 11:36                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-12-15 18:04                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-14 14:45           ` Using a CDN or some other mirror? Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-09 15:59     ` CDN performance Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-11  5:17       ` Meiyo Peng
     [not found]         ` <CAAYZrgbOZYyKhaHzziWfKz-nHVcUWS6WCo4TAq8bbDn9=YMTZA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-12-11  5:59           ` Meiyo Peng
     [not found]             ` <CAAYZrgb431xW1RD0Hf0d15T3AiW5yZWLL6oqHsyanv1qSf8Zuw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-12-11  6:14               ` Meiyo Peng
2018-12-13  7:11         ` Chris Marusich
2018-12-17  6:48           ` Meiyo Peng
2018-12-17  6:48             ` [bug#33600] " Meiyo Peng
2018-12-21 10:22             ` Chris Marusich
2018-12-21 16:04               ` Meiyo Peng
2018-12-21 16:04                 ` [bug#33600] " Meiyo Peng
2018-12-13  8:05       ` Chris Marusich
2018-12-13 10:41         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-12-15  1:40           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-12-19 12:40             ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-12-21  0:23               ` Trustworthiness of build farms (was Re: CDN performance) Mark H Weaver
2018-12-21 20:47               ` CDN performance Marius Bakke
2018-12-21 20:47                 ` [bug#33600] " Marius Bakke
2018-12-24 14:47           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-12-14 10:26         ` guix.gnu.org sub-domain Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-15 23:20           ` Chris Marusich
2018-12-15 23:20             ` [bug#33600] " Chris Marusich
2019-01-25  4:54             ` Amin Bandali
2018-12-14 10:35         ` CDN performance Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-13  9:21     ` Using a CDN or some other mirror? Giovanni Biscuolo
2018-12-14 12:17       ` Chris Marusich
2018-12-03 18:20 ` [PATCH 0/3] Defaulting to ci.guix.info (aka. berlin.guixsd.org) Amin Bandali
2018-12-04 14:11   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-11  5:41     ` Amin Bandali
2018-12-03 23:44 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-12-04  5:55   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-12-04  5:55     ` [bug#33600] " Ricardo Wurmus
2018-12-04  9:03     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-04 10:08       ` Andreas Enge
2018-12-04  8:59   ` Andreas Enge
2018-12-04 10:28     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-04 10:46       ` Andreas Enge
2018-12-04 14:12         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-04  3:40 ` Meiyo Peng
2018-12-04 14:13   ` Ludovic Courtès

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