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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 53818@debbugs.gnu.org, Xinglu Chen <public@yoctocell.xyz>
Subject: [bug#53818] [PATCH 0/3] Add Repology updater
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:40:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmnprasd.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87leyi4fcv.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Thu, 10 Feb 2022 21:49:04 +0100")

Hello,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Do you have examples where our updaters perform poorly and where
> Repology does a better job?  I wonder if there are lessons to be drawn
> and bugs to be fixed.

As a data point, I'm sorry to say that our updaters are useless to me.

I watch over more than one thousand packages. I would have a hard time
expressing what are those packages to the updater, besides writing and
keeping up-to-date a huge manifest file. Assuming I could manage this,
fetching all version information would take considerable time, and,
since many packages are from GitHub, the party would stop early anyway
with GitHub refusing to proceed and requesting some token I don't have.

OTOH, using Repology API, I get the information I want in about ten
seconds. Sure, I need to eyeball through the results, filtering false
positives (around 4% in my case), but it still is a practical solution.

IMO, to be useful, updaters may need to rely on an external service,
which may, or may not, belong to the Guix ecosystem. They also need
a good UI.

I don't want to sound too negative, though. And current updaters are
certainly good enough when watching over a couple of packages, which
might be the most common use-case.

Cheers,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou




  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-14 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-06 11:50 [bug#53818] [PATCH 0/3] Add Repology updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 12:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:17   ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:00 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 1/3] git-download: Export <git-reference> Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:00 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 2/3] import: Add 'repology' updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:11   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:18     ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:13   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:26     ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:13   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 13:17   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:32     ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:18   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:34     ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 15:36       ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 13:19   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 13:23   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:41     ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:23   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:42     ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:00 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 3/3] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Set 'repology-name' property Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 14:15   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-07  9:06 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 0/7] Add Repology updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:06   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 1/7] upstream: Sort list of updaters Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:06   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 2/7] http-client: Make 'http-fetch/cached' take '#:headers' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:06   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 3/7] http-client: 'http-fetch/cached' accepts a string or a <uri> Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:07   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 4/7] import: json: Make 'json-fetch' take '#:cached?' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:44     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-07  9:07   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 5/7] import: Add 'repology' updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:45     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-07  9:50     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-08 12:29       ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-08 12:49         ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-09 12:54           ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:07   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 6/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Set 'repology-name' property Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07  9:07   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 7/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Prepare for cross-compilation Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:22   ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 0/7] Add Repology updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:24     ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 1/7] upstream: Sort list of updaters Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:24     ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 2/7] http-client: Make 'http-fetch/cached' take '#:headers' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:24     ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 3/7] http-client: 'http-fetch/cached' accepts a string or a <uri> Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25     ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 4/7] import: json: Make 'json-fetch' take '#:http-fetch' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25     ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 5/7] import: Add 'repology' updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25     ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 6/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Set 'repology-name' property Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25     ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 7/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Prepare for cross-compilation Xinglu Chen
2022-02-08 22:59 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 0/3] Add Repology updater Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-09 12:52   ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 14:29     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-10 18:17       ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-10 19:30         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-10 20:49     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-14 10:40       ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2022-02-14 16:07         ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-14 16:58         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-14 18:42           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-15  9:57             ` [bug#53818] Improving updaters and ‘guix refresh’ Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-16 12:43               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-17 10:35                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-17 11:17                   ` zimoun
2022-02-18 10:28                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-03 21:28                       ` Ludovic Courtès

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