From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 53818@debbugs.gnu.org, Xinglu Chen <public@yoctocell.xyz>
Subject: [bug#53818] [PATCH 0/3] Add Repology updater
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:42:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87leydqohm.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsolv109.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2022 17:58:14 +0100")
Hello,
Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
> (I’m confused because my understanding of what you first wrote was that
> Repology had too many false positives to be useful.)
Repology is okay for my use-case because I've gotten accustomed to its
quirks. I wouldn't recommend it as a fall-back solution for Guix in its
current form, tho, for the reason above. Does that make sense?
> You wrote about your feelings and that’s insightful, but can we focus on
> specific examples where updaters are not helpful so we can better
> understand and improve the situation?
I wrote about the following facts:
- it is difficult to specify a large number of packages,
- when you have specified a large number of packages, the processing is
slow,
- checking GitHub fails for me.
I don't see any feelings in there.
>> IMO, to be useful, updaters may need to rely on an external service,
>> which may, or may not, belong to the Guix ecosystem.
>
> All the updaters rely on an external service. Relying on a centralized
> SaaSS is different, though.
Fair enough. I meant an external centralized service.
> Do you have examples of what’s wrong on the UI side?
It has no Emacs interface. Nuff said. ;)
Again, I don't know how to specify efficiently many packages, e.g., all
Emacs packages, or all games. Also, reading through a massive output in
the terminal is not very user friendly, IMO.
> To me, the main shortcoming is that ‘guix refresh’ doesn’t tell you that
> if you update X, you may also need to update Y and Z. That info is not
> always available, but it is available in repos such as PyPI and ELPA.
I don't think solving this is realistic. Dependencies are sometimes very
loose.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-14 19:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-06 11:50 [bug#53818] [PATCH 0/3] Add Repology updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 12:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:17 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:00 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 1/3] git-download: Export <git-reference> Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:00 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 2/3] import: Add 'repology' updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:11 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:18 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:13 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:26 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:13 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 13:17 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:32 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:18 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:34 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 15:36 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 13:19 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 13:23 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:41 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:23 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 15:42 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 13:00 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 3/3] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Set 'repology-name' property Xinglu Chen
2022-02-06 14:15 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-07 9:06 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 0/7] Add Repology updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:06 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 1/7] upstream: Sort list of updaters Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:06 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 2/7] http-client: Make 'http-fetch/cached' take '#:headers' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:06 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 3/7] http-client: 'http-fetch/cached' accepts a string or a <uri> Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:07 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 4/7] import: json: Make 'json-fetch' take '#:cached?' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:44 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-07 9:07 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 5/7] import: Add 'repology' updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:45 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-07 9:50 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-08 12:29 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-08 12:49 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-09 12:54 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:07 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 6/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Set 'repology-name' property Xinglu Chen
2022-02-07 9:07 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v2 7/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Prepare for cross-compilation Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:22 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 0/7] Add Repology updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:24 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 1/7] upstream: Sort list of updaters Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:24 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 2/7] http-client: Make 'http-fetch/cached' take '#:headers' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:24 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 3/7] http-client: 'http-fetch/cached' accepts a string or a <uri> Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 4/7] import: json: Make 'json-fetch' take '#:http-fetch' argument Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 5/7] import: Add 'repology' updater Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 6/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Set 'repology-name' property Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 13:25 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH v3 7/7] gnu: xorg-server-xwayland: Prepare for cross-compilation Xinglu Chen
2022-02-08 22:59 ` [bug#53818] [PATCH 0/3] Add Repology updater Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-09 12:52 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-09 14:29 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-10 18:17 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-10 19:30 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-10 20:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-14 10:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-14 16:07 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-14 16:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-14 18:42 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2022-02-15 9:57 ` [bug#53818] Improving updaters and ‘guix refresh’ Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-16 12:43 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-02-17 10:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-17 11:17 ` zimoun
2022-02-18 10:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-03 21:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=87leydqohm.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr \
--to=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr \
--cc=53818@debbugs.gnu.org \
--cc=ludo@gnu.org \
--cc=public@yoctocell.xyz \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.