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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>, 63869-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#63869: [shepherd] `guix system reconfigure` forgets `herd disable mysrv`
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:47:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs6urnwo.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5x8bkjl.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Fri, 09 Jun 2023 13:41:18 -0400")

Hi Maxim & Attila,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>>>> When a service is stopped at the time of reconfigure, it is immediately
>>>> replaced and then started.
>>>>
>>>> Replacing works by unregistering the old instance from the registry and
>>>> registering a new one.  As a side effect, you end up with an instance
>>>> that’s enabled (see ‘service-registry’ in (shepherd services)).
>>>>
>>>> I never thought it could be a problem.  WDYT?
>>>
>>> I think it probably goes against users' expectation (i.e., systemd) that
>>> a disabled service stays disabled unless manually re-enabled (I think
>>> that's the way it is for systemd, even when the system is upgraded?).
>>
>> Does systemd have a notion of enabled/disabled?
>
> Yes!  'systemctl disable <service>' [0].  It does stick around until the
> user changes it, I can confirm the behavior which I've recently seen on
> a Debian system upgrade (the service remained disabled and the updater
> warned it wouldn't be restarted because of that).
>
> [0]  https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html#disable%20UNIT%E2%80%A6
>
>> I’m fine either way.  We can also change it such that replacing a
>> disabled service does not re-enable it; that’s probably more logical.
>
> I guess sticking to the established convention set by systemd would
> cause the least friction down the road.  If we agree on this, we should
> reopen this bug (and eventually fix it :-)).

Agreed, fixed in Shepherd commit
52db31e5b061440cd110da4848ab230ce09f365a.

Thanks!

Ludo’.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-14 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-03 11:06 bug#63869: [shepherd] `guix system reconfigure` forgets `herd disable mysrv` Attila Lendvai
2023-06-05  7:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-06 16:41   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-09 13:22     ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-09 17:41       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-14 16:47         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2023-06-19  1:28           ` Maxim Cournoyer

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