From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>
To: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: It's time to build "guix deploy"
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:35:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ef8acrho.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190214081709.flzmcl5ijegx7rfn@thebird.nl>
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Hello Pjotr,
thanks for sharing your thougts!
Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl> writes:
[...]
> I am still using that setup today, to configure web, mail
> servers and home directory. The tool is here
>
> https://github.com/pjotrp/deploy
quiting from the README: "`deploy’ is a deployment tool which operates
in the same domain as Chef, Puppet, Cfengine"
I'd call them "configuration management tools" instead of "deployment
tools", even if someway (*badly*) they can also deploy software and
apply the configuration
why not using (or defining [1]) system services in a Guix
operating-system declaration instead of *any* other configuration
management software?... except for legacy reasons
the very reason I'm here is I don't want to use *anymore* *any* of them,
with all due _respect_ for the venerable projects, your included!
I've used Puppet and some Ansible, studied CFengine and Salt
Stack... then discovered Nix and rigth next Guix: what else? :-)
[...]
> and the emacs files sit in a git directory in the same tree and get
> copied across running 'deploy emacs.yaml'.
yes, we still miss "stateless user services config" (Pierre Neidhardt
wrote an interesting summary here
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00128.html)
I'd like to be able to declaratively manage a *stateless* .config/
instead of managing configuration with dotfiles [2]
anyway Guix is _perfect_ to declare and deploy system services, what we
miss is a little more abstraction (from operating-system to
infrastructure?) and remote control of "guix system reconfigure"
am I missing something?
Thanks
Giovanni
[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Defining-Services.html#Defining-Services
[2] I'm using myrepos with "stowable = true" for my dotfolders... but
I'll _never_ use something like it's Drupal extension
--
Giovanni Biscuolo
Xelera IT Infrastructures
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-14 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-27 23:38 Guix "ops" David Thompson
2015-04-30 15:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-30 16:53 ` David Thompson
2015-05-01 14:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-04 23:51 ` Carlos Sosa
2015-05-05 2:00 ` David Thompson
2015-05-05 7:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-07 3:02 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-05-22 14:59 ` David Thompson
2015-05-22 16:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-22 16:24 ` David Thompson
2015-05-27 18:47 ` Carlos Sosa
2015-05-28 16:10 ` Thompson, David
2015-05-27 19:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-28 16:13 ` Thompson, David
2015-07-09 18:27 ` OpenStack and GuixOps (was: Re: Guix "ops") Christopher Allan Webber
2015-07-10 2:18 ` Ian Denhardt
2015-07-10 17:24 ` OpenStack and GuixOps Ludovic Courtès
2015-06-01 15:18 ` Guix "ops" Pjotr Prins
2015-06-01 16:49 ` Thompson, David
2015-06-01 19:35 ` Guix deploy (and replace Puppet/Chef) Pjotr Prins
2015-07-10 16:37 ` Guix "ops" Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-16 23:36 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-17 14:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-10-19 21:10 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-20 13:29 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-10-20 17:01 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-20 19:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-02-11 13:31 ` It's time to build "guix deploy" Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-11 14:02 ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-11 14:47 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-11 18:11 ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-02-11 14:57 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-11 15:25 ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-11 16:58 ` Thompson, David
2019-02-11 20:49 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-13 19:04 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-14 7:14 ` swedebugia
2019-02-14 8:17 ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-14 15:35 ` Giovanni Biscuolo [this message]
2019-02-14 16:55 ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-14 14:17 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-17 8:41 ` swedebugia
2019-02-17 15:42 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-12 13:34 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-12 14:53 ` Thompson, David
2019-03-09 23:29 ` building " Thompson, David
2019-03-10 17:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-11 14:41 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-03-12 13:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
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