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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, David Thompson <davet@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Guix "ops"
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 21:41:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87shrqzu2u.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oa2feyzz.fsf@dustycloud.org> (Christopher Allan Webber's message of "Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:01:04 -0500")

Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
>> Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> skribis:
>>
>>>  - Should I build the entire derivation of the system I want to run on
>>>    the remote machine locally first, then copy that over?  (I assume
>>>    this is possible, and eventually desirable, especially if doing
>>>    mass deployments?  But it might not be desirable in every case.)
>>>    Would that use the substitute mechanism?
>>
>> Yes!  :-)
>>
>> Essentially deployment would work like this:
>>
>>   1. Compute the system derivation and build it locally (i.e., on the
>>      machine where ‘guix deploy’ is running.)
>>
>>      As a user, you can choose to have offloading setup such that the
>>      actual build will take place on (some of) the target machines, but
>>      that’s completely orthogonal.
>>
>>   2. Send the derivation out to the target(s) that are real machines.
>>      For targets that are local containers or VMs, there’s nothing to
>>      do.
>>
>>   3. On targets that are real machines, perform the equivalent of ‘guix
>>      system reconfigure’—i.e., update the /run/current-system symlink,
>>      restart Shepherd services that can be restarted, etc.
>>
>> IIRC David was testing using VMs and containers as the targets (the
>> <platform> record¹) because it’s easier.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> Hopefully David will correct me.  :-)
>
> Ok, it does make sense!
>
> It's nice to see the examples in the docs of exporting a system over
> ssh, even.  Anyway, I played with "guix archive" this morning; it works
> well.  So, sending an entire closure over the network: should be easy.
>
> I see that there's a --missing field; I'm a little bit unsure of how two
> machines would coordinate here though with the existing tooling... it
> doesn't look like we have a way to export the list of packges that
> --missing could then read in?  And then you'd need to feed whatever
> --missing gave you back into --export I guess.

Yes, there’s an example of that in (guix scripts offload), in
‘send-files’.

Essentially you do:

  guix archive --export \
    `guix gc -R the-thing-to-send | ssh host guix archive --missing` | \
    ssh host guix archive --import

HTH!

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-20 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-27 23:38 Guix "ops" David Thompson
2015-04-30 15:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-30 16:53   ` David Thompson
2015-05-01 14:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-04 23:51       ` Carlos Sosa
2015-05-05  2:00         ` David Thompson
2015-05-05  7:57           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-07  3:02             ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-05-22 14:59         ` David Thompson
2015-05-22 16:06           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-22 16:24             ` David Thompson
2015-05-27 18:47               ` Carlos Sosa
2015-05-28 16:10                 ` Thompson, David
2015-05-27 19:41               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-28 16:13                 ` Thompson, David
2015-07-09 18:27               ` OpenStack and GuixOps (was: Re: Guix "ops") Christopher Allan Webber
2015-07-10  2:18                 ` Ian Denhardt
2015-07-10 17:24                 ` OpenStack and GuixOps Ludovic Courtès
2015-06-01 15:18           ` Guix "ops" Pjotr Prins
2015-06-01 16:49             ` Thompson, David
2015-06-01 19:35               ` Guix deploy (and replace Puppet/Chef) Pjotr Prins
2015-07-10 16:37           ` Guix "ops" Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-16 23:36           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-17 14:51             ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-10-19 21:10               ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-20 13:29                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-10-20 17:01                   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-20 19:41                     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-02-11 13:31 ` It's time to build "guix deploy" Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-11 14:02   ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-11 14:47     ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-11 18:11       ` Amirouche Boubekki
2019-02-11 14:57     ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-11 15:25       ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-11 16:58   ` Thompson, David
2019-02-11 20:49     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-13 19:04       ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-14  7:14         ` swedebugia
2019-02-14  8:17           ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-14 15:35             ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-14 16:55               ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-14 14:17           ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-17  8:41             ` swedebugia
2019-02-17 15:42               ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-12 13:34     ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-12 14:53       ` Thompson, David
2019-03-09 23:29   ` building " Thompson, David
2019-03-10 17:42     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-11 14:41       ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-03-12 13:08         ` Ludovic Courtès

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