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From: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
To: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 1 (was: PYTHONPATH woes)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:43:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <533d1b89-377f-d026-df90-b81b9b7b3f0c@crazy-compilers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7a7057e-7e51-87f9-7a32-9478472fa2db@crazy-compilers.com>

Hi,


I'm going to analyse the PYTHONPATH issues systematically. This is part 1 of
the analysis.


Result
=======

PYTHONPATH intented (by upstream) for adding site-packages.  PYTHONPATH
elements are added in front of essential packages, while site-packages are
added behind.

This means the way we are using PYTHONPATH should be changed.


Preliminary Proposal
=======================

This proposal is under the limitation of the current state of the
analysis. Further parts of the analysis may yield more
insights, and propose different solutions.

1. The search-path-specification PYTHONPATH should be replaced by
   GUIX-PYTHON2-SITE-PACKAGES resp. GUIX-PYTHON3-SITE-PACKAGES (names
   tbd).

2. 'site.py' will be patched to add theses entries to sys.path.

Limitations:

This only solves the issue related to version-specific site-packages. python
still thinks its "home" is in /gnu/store while it actually should be in the
guix-profile.


Rational
=================

According to the documentation [1,2,PEP370], sys.path is composed as
follows:

  $PWD resp. dir containing the script
  $PYTHONPATH elements
  default search path PREFIX/lib/pythonX.Y
  user site-packages  ~/.local/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages
  system-site packages PREFIX/lib/python2.6/site-packages

The .pth-files are processed in user and system site-packages only,
but not in $PYTHONPATH.

[PEP370] explicitly says: "The […] site directory is added […] after
Python's search paths and PYTHONPATH. This setup […] prevents […]
overwriting a stdlib module. Stdlib modules can still be overwritten
with PYTHONPATH."

This means: PYTHONPATH is not intented to set system site-packages.

Example:

$ cd ~
$ PYTHONPATH=/tmp/aaa:/tmp/bbb /usr/bin/python -m site
sys.path = [
    '/home/htgoebel,
    '/tmp/aaa',
    '/tmp/bbb',
    '/usr/lib/python27.zip',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7/plat-linux2',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-tk',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-old',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-dynload',
    '/home/htgoebel/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0',
    '/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/wx-3.0-gtk2',
    '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages',
]


[1] https://docs.python.org/3/using/cmdline.html#envvar-PYTHONPATH
[2] https://docs.python.org/3/library/site.html#module-site
[PEP370] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0370/#implementation

-- 
Regards
Hartmut Goebel

| Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com               |
| www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-27 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-20 10:53 PYTHONPATH woes Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-20 15:01 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-20 15:18   ` Andy Wingo
2018-02-20 16:40     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-20 15:30   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-21 21:58 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-22 15:30   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-22 18:35     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-22 20:42     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-23  8:45       ` Vincent Legoll
2018-02-23 12:36     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-23 16:59       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-23 19:36         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-23 23:54           ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-24 10:44         ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-24 10:49           ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-27 11:43           ` Hartmut Goebel [this message]
2018-03-13 21:54             ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 1 Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-27 11:49           ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 2 (was: PYTHONPATH woes) Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-11 21:47           ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3 " Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-13 21:23             ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3 Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-13 21:44               ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-13 22:02                 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14  7:49                   ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-14  9:04                     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14 18:21                       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-15 19:48                     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-13 21:47               ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14  9:41                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-13 21:51               ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14  0:10               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-15  9:09                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-15 19:30             ` PYTHONPATH issue explanation Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-17  1:41               ` 宋文武
2018-03-17 10:07                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-17 22:46                   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-17 22:53                   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-17 11:18                 ` [PATCH] gnu: python: Honor 'GUIX_PYTHON_X_Y_SITE_PACKAGES' 宋文武
2018-03-17 21:53                   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-18  0:04                     ` 宋文武
2018-03-18  0:07                   ` 宋文武
2018-03-17 22:04                 ` PYTHONPATH issue explanation Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-18  0:57                   ` 宋文武
2018-03-18 10:05                     ` 宋文武
2018-03-24 20:47               ` Chris Marusich
2018-04-16 14:21             ` PYTHONPATH - let's systematically tame the baest Hartmut Goebel
2018-04-17  1:47               ` 宋文武
2018-04-17  7:03                 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-04-18  8:34               ` Ricardo Wurmus

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