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From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 08:49:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180314074941.GA18245@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3713e2d0-600f-d624-03b6-19096643c876@crazy-compilers.com>

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:02:03PM +0100, Hartmut Goebel wrote:
> Am 13.03.2018 um 22:44 schrieb Pjotr Prins:
> > Another problem is that it does not cover special cases where, for
> > example you compile Python with SSL and without. You don't want them
> > to share user installed libs.
> 
> Upstream does not handle this case, so I do not see a need to handle
> this in guix. If we find a way, this would be find. But prior to solving
> the optional we should solve the compulsory :-)

  https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/configure#L1543

and there are many other options which define the behaviour of the
interpreter. We don't use them in GNU Guix, but it does not mean we
should not think about it/allow it.

I am nit picking a bit, but the problem is that we don't have a full
solution unless we can isolate the instances and the packages they can
install (themselves).

Using one PYTHONPATH is ultimately Python's failure - I agree with
Ludo that people should do what they want with it. Bringing in an
extra GUIX_PYTHONPATH_$VER will confuse things (and probably break it
for some people).

I propose we patch the interpreter to tell about the Guix paths. It
probably only needs to be done in one place. They should go after the
PYTHONPATH as it is done by Python itself, like you suggested earlier.

That is an acceptable approach. Just a little annoyance with every
Python upgrade.

Pj.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-14  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-20 10:53 PYTHONPATH woes Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-20 15:01 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-20 15:18   ` Andy Wingo
2018-02-20 16:40     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-20 15:30   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-21 21:58 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-22 15:30   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-22 18:35     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-22 20:42     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-23  8:45       ` Vincent Legoll
2018-02-23 12:36     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-23 16:59       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-23 19:36         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-23 23:54           ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-24 10:44         ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-24 10:49           ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-27 11:43           ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 1 (was: PYTHONPATH woes) Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-13 21:54             ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 1 Hartmut Goebel
2018-02-27 11:49           ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 2 (was: PYTHONPATH woes) Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-11 21:47           ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3 " Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-13 21:23             ` PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3 Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-13 21:44               ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-13 22:02                 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14  7:49                   ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2018-03-14  9:04                     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14 18:21                       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-03-15 19:48                     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-13 21:47               ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14  9:41                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-13 21:51               ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-14  0:10               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-15  9:09                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-15 19:30             ` PYTHONPATH issue explanation Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-17  1:41               ` 宋文武
2018-03-17 10:07                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-03-17 22:46                   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-17 22:53                   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-17 11:18                 ` [PATCH] gnu: python: Honor 'GUIX_PYTHON_X_Y_SITE_PACKAGES' 宋文武
2018-03-17 21:53                   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-18  0:04                     ` 宋文武
2018-03-18  0:07                   ` 宋文武
2018-03-17 22:04                 ` PYTHONPATH issue explanation Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-18  0:57                   ` 宋文武
2018-03-18 10:05                     ` 宋文武
2018-03-24 20:47               ` Chris Marusich
2018-04-16 14:21             ` PYTHONPATH - let's systematically tame the baest Hartmut Goebel
2018-04-17  1:47               ` 宋文武
2018-04-17  7:03                 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-04-18  8:34               ` Ricardo Wurmus

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