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From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Translating to Chinese, Spanish and Japanese (and more)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 11:49:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180205104944.otr5qzr3etwrjonw@floriannotebook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d11jivqo.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 11:19:59AM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Heya!
> 
> For those who where not at FOSDEM: this is a topic we discussed, and the
> main stumbling block currently is that it’s not clear how to add i18n
> support in Haunt and/or the web site itself.
> 
> julien lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> skribis:
> 
> > as I said during FOSDEM, I'm willing to translate the website, blog
> > posts, and manual into French.  My only concern is that the translations
> > may fall out of sync without anyone noticing.  With gettext, it's easy
> > to know when strings are not translated, but what about the solution
> > that would be used by haunt?
> 
> The latest discussions I’m aware of on this topic are at:
> 
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2017-12/msg00024.html
> 
> Florian proposed introducing a “stringly-typed” markup language to allow
> the translation of strings that contain markup (which sxml would
> prevent):
> 
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2017-12/msg00040.html
> 
> At FOSDEM I thought we could maybe use XML-in-strings directly and have
> a macro that does ‘xml->sxml’ at expansion time, pretty much like what
> Florian wrote above.
> 
> Anyway there are ideas floating around, so I’m sure you and Florian and
> others will find out!  :-)
> 
> Ludo’.

I don’t think translators should need to know XML or anything beside
common sense and human languages.  Either way, I’m happy with __ and _
functions I have at
https://pelzflorian.de/git/pelzfloriande-website/tree/haunt.scm

Of course other solutions are possible.

I’m not happy with my using ffi-help for calling libgettext.  Simply
calling setlocale for each piece of SHTML is better because it is
easier to understand.  Using a custom Guile MO file reader would
likely be faster but is not strictly necessary.

So far I did not prioritize sending a patch for Haunt because I do not
need it urgently.  I would be thankful if others took a look.
Otherwise I’ll try to implement what I described in this here e-mail
thread.

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      reply	other threads:[~2018-02-05 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-05  9:07 Translating to Chinese, Spanish and Japanese (and more) Pjotr Prins
2018-02-05  9:28 ` julien lepiller
2018-02-05  9:41   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-02-05 12:26     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-05 14:47       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-02-05 17:21         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-02-05 14:44     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-02-06 10:17       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-02-06 10:19         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-03-29 10:22           ` julien lepiller
2018-04-21 15:41             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-02-05 10:19   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-05 10:49     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) [this message]

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