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From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>,
	Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in>,
	 guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multiple profiles with Guix Home
Date: Thu, 05 May 2022 19:27:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4b90d475a1aabb4bd69a5cdf24a52a20c3a154b.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a03c6ebb37215c34de5a22bf2d5a7b5b84773f38.camel@telenet.be>

Am Donnerstag, dem 05.05.2022 um 18:42 +0200 schrieb Maxime Devos:
> Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op do 05-05-2022 om 18:31 [+0200]:
> > > I am not debating any legitimacy (<home-profile> is not some
> > > government), I am discussing the reasons, and whether some of the
> > > features (e.g. faster profile building) can be implemented more
> > > generally (not Guix Home-exclusive), without manual
> > > configuration.
> > I think you're misunderstanding cause and effect here.  For small
> > n, O(n) = O(1).
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean here, what cause and what effect are you
> referring to here?  And I'm not sure what the connection between ‘for
> small n, O(n) = O(1)’ and the previous sentences is (I guess
> something about profile building times and small profiles -> fast
> building, but I don't see any connection to cause and effect ...)?
You get the fast builds because you have small inputs to union-build. 
You can't get small inputs to union-build without splitting your
profile and if everything goes into one profile, you need union-build
in the end.

> > If some reasons remain (e.g. tidyness of separated thematic
> > profiles), _those_ reasons could be a good reason for <home-
> > profile> or the like.  What I'd like to avoid, is avoiding extra
> > complexity for the wrong reasons, and only adding it for the right
> > reasons.  To reiterate, the primary reason for using Guix Home to
> > manage multiple profiles is so that we can manage multiple profiles
> > in a declarative manner.
> 
> Multiple profiles can already be managed in a declarative manner:
> "guix shell -m manifest.scm".  I'd say that Guix Home adds some
> impurity (‘guix home reconfigure’ installs/removes/replaces some
> symlinks in $HOME, which is a form of mutation).  Though maybe some
> people want to keep all their manifests together and don't mind the
> little extra mutation?
We're not talking about the same kind of profile management here.  By
profile management I mean creating, updating, modifying and deleting a
profile that has the same basic properties as ~/.guix-profile or
~/.guix-home.  Shell profiles are not that.

Cheers


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-05 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-03 10:50 Multiple profiles with Guix Home Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-04  7:17 ` zimoun
2021-10-04  8:11   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 14:13 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-03 18:34   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 19:13     ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:04       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 20:39         ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:44         ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04  9:25           ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:59         ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04  4:16           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04  7:01             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04  7:08               ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 13:15               ` Reza Housseini
2022-05-04 13:46                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 18:14                   ` zimoun
2022-05-04 18:21                     ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05  8:01                 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-04 18:38               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04 20:41                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05  4:25                   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 10:53                     ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:24                       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 16:33                         ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:21                           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:29                             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 11:03                     ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:31                       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 16:42                         ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:12                           ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:27                           ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2022-05-05 17:41                             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 19:17                               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 19:42                                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:20                                   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 18:00                             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 19:08                               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 19:44                                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 23:53                                   ` zimoun
2022-05-05 20:13                                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:53                                   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 21:28                                     ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06  4:19                                       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-07 23:06                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-05 20:50                                 ` zimoun
2022-05-05 18:25                         ` zimoun
2022-05-03 21:11         ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04  4:23           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04  6:57             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04  9:24             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 13:05     ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-05 11:05 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:22   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:07     ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:19       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:29         ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 18:24           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 20:14             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:27               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 20:38                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:41                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:26             ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 18:40               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-06 19:54                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 21:32                   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-07  7:17                     ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-23 13:14 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-23 17:05   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-24 11:55     ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-24 18:31       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-25 11:01         ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-25 23:36           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-27 12:52             ` andrew
2022-05-27 13:14               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
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2021-10-03 20:51 John Kehayias

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