From: Andrew Tropin <andrewtropin@gmail.com>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multiple profiles with Guix Home
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 16:14:08 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilpwpf1b.fsf@trop.in> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adfff0005ab64c9c2c748d4a8e7f5a7a644b229f.camel@gmail.com>
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On 2021-10-03 12:50, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote:
> Hi Guix,
>
> it's been a while since the discussion of whether or not to collect
> multiple profiles into a single directory [1]. This suggestion takes
> inspiration from that, but goes a vastly different route. Instead of
> using environment variables to control Guix, it takes advantage of the
> recently added Guix Home, even if it is still a technical preview.
>
> So, what's the proposition? I suggest we modify home-profile-service-
> type (or add a new service) such that it takes a list of <home-profile>
> records instead of a list of packages. This record would be defined as
>
> (define-record-type* <home-profile> home-profile
> make-home-profile home-profile? this-home-profile
> (location home-profile-location) ; string, e.g. $HOME/.guix-profile
> (short-name home-profile-short-name) ; string or #f, if given
> ; construct a symlink in
> ; /var/guix/.../per-user/
> (manifest %home-profile-manifest) ; <manifest> or #f
> (packages home-profile-packages) ; list of <package> or #f
> ; fallback for manifest
> (enabled? home-profile-enabled?) ; boolean, default #t
> [...])
>
> (define (home-profile-manifest home-profile)
> (or (%home-profile-manifest home-profile)
> (and=> (home-profile-packages home-profile)
> packages->manifest))))
>
> On init/reconfigure, `guix home' creates/updates all home-profiles
> which have a home-profile-manifest that is not #f and links them to the
> appropriate locations. It also creates a shell startup script that
> loads those profiles that are enabled?, even if they have no manifest
> (this can be used to e.g. declare a pull profile, which `guix home'
> can't manage).
>
> Some existing home services would need to be adapted towards this
> multiple profile usage. For instance, home-fontconfig-service-type
> would need to accept a list of directories, rather than hardcode its
> value.
>
> What do y'all think?
>
> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-12/msg00358.html>
>
>
The discussion seems too heated and bloated, it's hard to reasonably
address arguments mentioned around, so I'll just post some thoughts and
a possible way to somehow proceed.
I suggest to split the bigger idea into smaller pieces, play with the
implementation locally/in fork/branch and see how it goes:
1. home-profiles-paths-service-type. It will allow to add code for
sourcing profiles in setup-environment script and thus implement
workflows with multiple profiles. Such profiles can be managed
externally or in the future built as a part of home environment.
2. home-[additional-]profiles-service-type. It will allow to build
profiles from list of packages, optionally add a profile to
home-profiles-paths. It will make ~/.guix-home/profiles/{emacs,web,etc}
To make it possible for other service to utilize multiple profiles, this
service will be extandable with values like that:
`((default . ,(list curl wget))
(web . ,(list browser-ad-block-plugin))
(emacs . ,(list emacs emacs-cider emacs-modus-themes)))
3. Maybe migrate ~/.guix-home/profile to ~/.guix-home/profiles/default.
I still can see a lot of potential problems related to search paths,
however part of them can be solved by duplicating packages in different
profiles or using dummy packages like emacs-consumer:
https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde/tree/master/item/rde/packages/emacs.scm#L56
Also, I can see potential complication of Guix Home in general due to
multiple profiles capabilities and I still not sure that it worth the
benefits mentioned below:
I agree that multiple profiles can be benifitial for both better package
organization/structuring needs and faster build/reconfigure times.
I also see some demand from people requesting such a feature.
Liliana, if you still into it, I suggest to start with something
similiar to what I described above, share the draft implementation and
intermediate results/impression in a separate thread and continue the
further discussion.
--
Best regards,
Andrew Tropin
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-23 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-03 10:50 Multiple profiles with Guix Home Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-04 7:17 ` zimoun
2021-10-04 8:11 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 14:13 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-03 18:34 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 19:13 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:04 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 20:39 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:44 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 9:25 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:59 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 4:16 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04 7:01 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 7:08 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 13:15 ` Reza Housseini
2022-05-04 13:46 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 18:14 ` zimoun
2022-05-04 18:21 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 8:01 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-04 18:38 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04 20:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 4:25 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 10:53 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:24 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 16:33 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:21 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:29 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 11:03 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:31 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 16:42 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:12 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:27 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 19:17 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 19:42 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:20 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 18:00 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 19:08 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 19:44 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 23:53 ` zimoun
2022-05-05 20:13 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:53 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 21:28 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 4:19 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-07 23:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-05 20:50 ` zimoun
2022-05-05 18:25 ` zimoun
2022-05-03 21:11 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 4:23 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04 6:57 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 9:24 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 13:05 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-05 11:05 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:22 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:07 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:19 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:29 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 18:24 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 20:14 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:27 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 20:38 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:26 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 18:40 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-06 19:54 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 21:32 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-07 7:17 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-23 13:14 ` Andrew Tropin [this message]
2022-05-23 17:05 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-24 11:55 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-24 18:31 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-25 11:01 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-25 23:36 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-27 12:52 ` andrew
2022-05-27 13:14 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
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