From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>,
Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in>,
guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multiple profiles with Guix Home
Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 06:19:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <730badc600a5cdde964ef4ba6e93dcf79ba5dcb6.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6c58669e5912b0b66a4fc1ba37f30045d78b047.camel@telenet.be>
Am Donnerstag, dem 05.05.2022 um 23:28 +0200 schrieb Maxime Devos:
>
> > Having to debate the semantics of a 2.5 year old blog posts should
> > not be necessary in any
> I don't think the semantics of
> <https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/guix-profiles-in-practice/> was
> debated anywhere here? Were there any differing interpretations of
> that blog post?
IMHO, you are ignoring the very obvious GUIX_EXTRA_PROFILES stuff,
because "we have guix shell". No, guix shell is not a solution to this
problem.
> Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op do 05-05-2022 om 22:53 [+0200]:
> > Note that the context has always been placing multiple profiles in
> > well-defined locations. It was assumed from the very first post
> > that you have a use for those, or at the very least that you don't
> > mind others having a use for them.
>
> As I understood it, it was introduced as ‘here's a feature proposal’.
> By the following messages, I understood it as ‘this feature proposal
> is to solve some issues (profile building speed, ...)’ -- i.e., a
> means to a goal.
Again, Andrew spoke about costs and benefits, wherein I assumed he
meant the costs and benefits of building multiple profiles in Guix Home
vs. building a single profile. I already clarified this
misunderstanding (or at least assumed I did).
> >
> > > (7) is already achieved by "guix install" / "guix package -m".
> > > The ‘source on login’ isn't though -- half-achieved?
> > It's not. You can't currently declare a noop profile in any Guix
> > command. A noop profile is distinct from an empty profile.
>
> I don't know what a ‘noop profile’ is but whatever, I don't think it
> matters here given that some other things remain. Will become clear
> once it is implemented I guess.
In this case it's a home-profile that leads to no build action. The
very concept has no meaning outside of managing multiple profiles,
because it is always assumed you're modifying a particular one (or
working on a transient one in the case of guix shell).
> > See Andrew's objection in the light of non-managed profiles.
>
> I'm not seeing any fragility? And I'm not seeing the relevancy of
> non-managed profiles here -- if it's non-managed how would the
> alternative proposal be better there? And why would Guix Home
> concern itself with non-Guix-Home profiles?
So as to figure out the right order w.r.t. PATH shadowing. For
instance, this proposal would allow you to install Guix extensions in a
well-known location while guix itself is still the one that's used by
guix pull. In order to do that, you need to set up current-guix as a
noop profile and the extensions inside a profile that's below it in the
search path.
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-06 4:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-03 10:50 Multiple profiles with Guix Home Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-04 7:17 ` zimoun
2021-10-04 8:11 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 14:13 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-03 18:34 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 19:13 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:04 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-03 20:39 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:44 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 9:25 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-03 20:59 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 4:16 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04 7:01 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 7:08 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 13:15 ` Reza Housseini
2022-05-04 13:46 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 18:14 ` zimoun
2022-05-04 18:21 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 8:01 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-04 18:38 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04 20:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 4:25 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 10:53 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:24 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 16:33 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:21 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:29 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 11:03 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:31 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 16:42 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:12 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:27 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 19:17 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 19:42 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:20 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 18:00 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 19:08 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 19:44 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 23:53 ` zimoun
2022-05-05 20:13 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:53 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 21:28 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 4:19 ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2022-05-07 23:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-05 20:50 ` zimoun
2022-05-05 18:25 ` zimoun
2022-05-03 21:11 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 4:23 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-04 6:57 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 9:24 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-04 13:05 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-05 11:05 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 16:22 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:07 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 17:19 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 17:29 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 18:24 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 20:14 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:27 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-05 20:38 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:41 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-05 20:26 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 18:40 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-06 19:54 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-06 21:32 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-07 7:17 ` Maxime Devos
2022-05-23 13:14 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-23 17:05 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-24 11:55 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-24 18:31 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-25 11:01 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-05-25 23:36 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-05-27 12:52 ` andrew
2022-05-27 13:14 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
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