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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Autotools-generated 'configure' & 'Makefile.in' considered binaries?
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:04:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c2ca57d59672fc4f9ebc0230b08d8953030a456.camel@telenet.be> (raw)

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Hi guix,

Quite some packages in Guix use the Autotools system.  In this system,
a 'configure.ac' and 'Makefile.am' script / makefile is written, from
which 'autoconf' & 'automake' generate a very long bash script and a
Makefile.in.  Depending on the maintainer of the upstream package, this
'configure' and 'Makefile.in' are sometimes included in release
tarballs.

This seems in conflict with:

  * (guix)Submitting patches: ‘Make sure the package does not use
    bundled copies of software already available as separate
    packages.’

    Autotools packages have a 'config.guess' and 'config.sub' script
    that need to be updated whenever there's a new architecture.  As
    such, for some packages, these need to be replaced for aarch64,
    powerpc or risv64.  There are also some packages with very old
    configure scripts that don't support --build/--host/--target,
    which could gain --build/--host/--target support by just
    regenerating them.

    This also makes ensuring a package does not contain any malware
    much harder, because the configure script (and related files)
    needs to be read in their entirity.

 * When an upstream tarball contains .so, .dll, .a, etc. binaries,
   they are removed downstream in a snippet.  Why would the Autotools
   be an exception?

For some ‘early’ packages (gcc, glibc, binutils, ...), there's a
circularity problem, so building 'configure' and 'Makefile.in' from
source might not always be possible, but WDYT of building 'configure' &
'Makefile.in' from source for packages where it does not result in
bootstrapping problems?

Greetings,
Maxime.

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             reply	other threads:[~2022-03-30 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-30 12:04 Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-03-30 14:31 ` Autotools-generated 'configure' & 'Makefile.in' considered binaries? Zhu Zihao
2022-03-31 11:17   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 11:19   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 11:22   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 11:27   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-30 18:55 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-30 19:24   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31  4:22     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-31 11:10       ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 18:24         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-31 18:31           ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 20:11             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-04-01  8:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-01 10:03   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-05 12:06     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-06 16:35       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-04-10 20:25         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-02 10:55       ` zimoun
2022-04-01  9:12 ` Jonathan McHugh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-06-29 19:01 Maxime Devos

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