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From: "Jonathan McHugh" <indieterminacy@libre.brussels>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
	"Maxime Devos" <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Autotools-generated 'configure' & 'Makefile.in' considered binaries?
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 09:12:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01b321d2e2470b83d86c9b8fbfa73f38@libre.brussels> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgl5npss.fsf@gnu.org>

Hi Ludo,

April 1, 2022 11:01 AM, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

> 
> This is conceptually the “right thing”, but it raises a significant
> bootstrapping problem. Our bootstrap path currently focuses on being
> able to run shell scripts, in particular ‘configure’ scripts, before we
> can even build Bash, thanks to Gash and Gash-Utils. If we were to build
> the autotools machinery systematically, we’d need Gash-Utils to provide
> a Perl and an M4 implementation. (Now, Timothy has written an Awk
> interpreter, so a Perl interpreter can’t be so hard, right? :-))
> The other option is to write an Autoconf and Automake implementation…
> 

A huge Awk fan, have you got a reference for Timothy's interpreter?

> As a first milestone, maybe we could start running ‘autoreconf’ more
> often, for packages higher in the graph. We could change the
> ‘bootstrap’ build phase to do that unless it’s explicitly turned off.
> It may turn out to be a Sisyphean task though…
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Ludo’.



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Jonathan McHugh
indieterminacy@libre.brussels


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-01  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-30 12:04 Autotools-generated 'configure' & 'Makefile.in' considered binaries? Maxime Devos
2022-03-30 14:31 ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-31 11:17   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 11:19   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 11:22   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 11:27   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-30 18:55 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-30 19:24   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31  4:22     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-31 11:10       ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 18:24         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-31 18:31           ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-31 20:11             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-04-01  8:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-01 10:03   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-05 12:06     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-06 16:35       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-04-10 20:25         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-02 10:55       ` zimoun
2022-04-01  9:12 ` Jonathan McHugh [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-06-29 19:01 Maxime Devos

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