Re: Octave & QtOctave

[Kei Kebreau <kkebreau@posteo.net>]

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Alex Vong <alexvong1995@gmail.com> writes:

> Kei Kebreau <kkebreau@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Alex Vong <alexvong1995@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Kei Kebreau <kkebreau@posteo.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Alex Vong <alexvong1995@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Kei,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kei Kebreau <kkebreau@posteo.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are two tentative patches that make the changes we've discussed.
>>>>>> Also, should we make a deprecated-package definition for qtoctave?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think some additional changes related to "(assoc-ref inputs ..."
>>>>> needed to be made. Otherwise, looks good to me! Here is a patch I made
>>>>> earlier but it was not tested, feel free to cherry-pick what is needed:
>>>>>
>>>>> From 2b04caa66c17da257dfb4f4ccb94e8d629b95e53 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>>>>> From: Alex Vong <alexvong1995@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 03:39:40 +0800
>>>>> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Rename "octave" to "octave-cli" and "qtoctave" to
>>>>>  "octave".
>>>>>
>>>>> * gnu/packages/maths.scm (octave): Rename to octave-cli.
>>>>> [name]: Change to "octave-cli".
>>>>> (qtoctave): Rename to octave.
>>>>> [name]: Change to "octave".
>>>>> [inherit]: Inherit from octave-cli.
>>>>> [source]: Likewise.
>>>>> [inputs]: Likewise.
>>>>> [native-inputs]: Likewise.
>>>>> [arguments]: Likewise.
>>>>> (flann): Update accordingly.
>>>>> * gnu/packages/engineering.scm (qucs): Likewise.
>>>>> (qucs-s): Likewise.
>>>>> * gnu/packages/machine-learning.scm (shogun): Likewise.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> -         ("octave" ,octave)
>>>>> +         ("octave-cli" ,octave-cli)
>>>>
>>>> I see the main difference is that you've replace the package's
>>>> associated string to "octave-cli" as well as the name, whereas I've only
>>>> replaced the package name. Should I replace the associated package
>>>> string, too?
>>>
>>> According to the manual "6.7.2 Package Naming", the associated string is
>>> used for package management commands such as 'guix package' and 'guix
>>> build'. Therefore, I think we should change them as well, so that the
>>> users can install the packages using the command
>>> "guix package -i octave-cli" and "guix package -i octave"
>>> respectively. What do you think?
>>
>> Maybe this is true when manipulating the package definition, but that
>> doesn't seem to be the case in general. When I run
>> "./pre-inst-env guix package --show=shogun", for example,
>> "octave-cli@4.4.1" is listed as a dependency, even though "octave" is
>> the associated name in shogun's input list.
>>
>> To be clear, I've changed the string for octave's and octave-cli's
>> package name in their respective package definitions, but I haven't
>> changed the string in the input lists of octave-cli's dependent
>> packages.
>>
>> I'm inclined to follow convention when it comes to this, and other
>> packages in input lists seem to omit extensions to the base name of the
>> package in their assoc-lists. For example, ("gettext", gettext-minimal)
>> and ("python", python-minimal-wrapper) are common inputs for packages.
>
> I think you are right! This was a misunderstanding on my part. I thought
> the association string in the input lists must be the same as the
> package name, but appraently this is not the case.
>
> Take gettext-minimal as an example,
> its variable name is 'gettext-minimal',
> its package name is "gettext-minimal",
> but its input name is "gettext".

Precisely! Unless anyone else has concerns that should be brought to
light, I'll be committing this within the next 2 days.

Thank you to all involved so far.

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