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From: Alex Vong <alexvong1995@gmail.com>
To: Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Should we rename qtoctave to octave and octave to octave-cli? (was Re: Octave & QtOctave)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:12:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9ad2qly.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181124221022.ankjuz4mdpkoohkn@abyayala> (ng0's message of "Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:10:22 +0000")

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ng0@n0.is writes:

> names for packages are (mostly) random, although in some
> cases following classiifcations (see python-*, r-*, ...).
>
I am thinking that should we rename qtoctave to octave and octave to
octave-cli (or octave-minimal)?

Firstly, a new user wanting to install octave will probably do the
obvious "guix package -i octave", but currently this command will do the
counter-intuitive thing of installing the non-gui version of
octave. Instead, they will have to install qtoctave to get the gui. I am
in favour of making a package to support as many features as possible,
while also making a minimal version for building other packages (or
users who desn't want a gui). An example would be emacs vs
emacs-minimal.

Secondly, I suggest to name the minimal version as "octave-cli" because
this is what the octave binary (the command-line only version) is
called. Also, running "guix package -A '-cli$'" shows some of the
existing packages also follow similar naming convention (I don't know it
they have a corresponding gui version though).

What do others think?

Cheers,
Alex

> The Qt part of Octave is a separate package because making
> it just an output would still pull in Qt and the size difference
> is huge.
>
> Alex Vong transcribed 856 bytes:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net> writes:
>> 
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > Happy guix birthday!
>> >
>> > Quick question, why is the octave package split up into two different
>> > public definitions, rather than just having the QtOctave-GUI being a
>> > "gui" output, like it is for transmissionBT and some others?
>> >
>> I would also want to know why it is called qtoctave. My understanding is
>> that qtoctave was a GUI frontend to the official octave which is now
>> replaced by the official octave GUI.
>> 
>> > Best,
>> > Brett Gilio
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Alex

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-25 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-24  0:56 Octave & QtOctave Brett Gilio
2018-11-24 13:12 ` Alex Vong
2018-11-24 22:10   ` ng0
2018-11-25 14:12     ` Alex Vong [this message]
2018-11-25 15:49       ` Should we rename qtoctave to octave and octave to octave-cli? (was Re: Octave & QtOctave) Brett Gilio
2018-11-25 15:58     ` Octave & QtOctave Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-27 17:53       ` Kei Kebreau
2018-11-28 10:47         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-29 16:21           ` swedebugia
2018-12-02 19:25             ` Kei Kebreau
2018-12-02 19:28           ` Kei Kebreau
2018-12-02 21:18             ` swedebugia
2018-12-03  1:07               ` Kei Kebreau
2018-12-04 14:17             ` Alex Vong
2018-12-04 20:53               ` Kei Kebreau
2018-12-06  5:30                 ` Alex Vong
2018-12-06 15:42                   ` Kei Kebreau
2018-12-06 17:50                     ` Alex Vong
2018-12-07 15:52                       ` Kei Kebreau
2018-12-08 18:23                         ` Kei Kebreau

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