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From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
To: paul <goodoldpaul@autistici.org>
Cc: Nathan Dehnel <ncdehnel@gmail.com>,  atai@atai.org,  guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The e(macs)lephant in the room and the Guix Bang
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 12:00:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msxdfbuy.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a710ca0-466b-0d6e-9768-60b7904178cc@autistici.org> (paul's message of "Sat, 23 Sep 2023 10:58:35 +0200")

paul writes:

Dear Paul,

> On 9/23/23 09:37, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>> Nathan Dehnel writes:
>>
>>> I don't use emacs either (because it's so impenetrable)
>> Emacs might be somewhat different from what you know, but this is utter
>> bollocks.
>
> Thank you for your opinion but it's just that: a subjective judgement
> based on your own episodic experience.

I'm sorry if my tone was too harsh, I now realise this is still
triggering old pain.

Why is it still OK to for people to keep spreading negative anecdotes
about Emacs, and problematic to refute them or counter them with
positive anecdotes?

It's been me believing exactly such lies that scared me away from
starting with Emacs for years, lost years in a way; something I deeply
regret: this has to stop.

Greetings,
Janneke

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-23 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  5:19 The e(macs)lephant in the room and the Guix Bang Nathan Dehnel
2023-09-23  7:37 ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2023-09-23  8:58   ` paul
2023-09-23 10:00     ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen [this message]
2023-09-24  7:37       ` Nathan Dehnel
2023-09-24  8:51         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-09-25 11:19           ` MSavoritias
2023-09-25 18:54             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-09-25 19:21               ` Simon Tournier
2023-09-25 11:09       ` MSavoritias
2023-09-25 20:34         ` Emacs and Guix (was Re: The e(macs)lephant in the room and the Guix Bang) Simon Tournier
2023-09-28  7:19           ` Efraim Flashner
2023-10-02 11:23       ` The e(macs)lephant in the room and the Guix Bang Munyoki Kilyungi
2023-09-23 12:59     ` The Giraffe; the Pelican et al (was Re: The e(macs)lephant in the room and the Guix Bang) indieterminacy
2023-09-25 11:13       ` MSavoritias
2023-09-25 20:35         ` Simon Tournier
2023-09-26  7:33           ` indieterminacy
2023-09-23  9:56 ` The e(macs)lephant in the room and the Guix Bang Ricardo Wurmus
2023-09-23 10:25   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-09-23 12:29   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-09-24  7:11   ` Nathan Dehnel
2023-09-24 20:19   ` Csepp
2023-09-24 21:46     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-09-27 18:38 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2023-09-28  6:12   ` Nathan Dehnel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-09-20 18:00 Andy Tai
2023-10-02 14:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-08-23 16:25 How can we decrease the cognitive overhead for contributors? Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-08-24  6:33 ` (
2023-08-26  0:39   ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-08-27  3:22     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-08-27  7:39       ` 宋文武
2023-08-28 11:42         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2023-09-01 19:12           ` Imran Iqbal
2023-09-03 17:45             ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2023-09-03 21:05               ` indieterminacy
2023-09-03 21:16                 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2023-09-13 12:20                   ` Fannys
2023-09-13 15:42                     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-09-17 11:29                       ` MSavoritias
2023-09-18 10:09                         ` Simon Tournier
2023-09-19 16:35                           ` The elephant in the room and the Guix Bang Giovanni Biscuolo
2023-09-20  8:21                             ` Csepp
2023-09-20  8:45                               ` The e(macs)lephant " Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-09-20  9:28                                 ` MSavoritias
2023-09-20 14:03                                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-09-20 14:09                                     ` MSavoritias

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