* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) [not found] ` <20200519162228.GA29967@jasmine.lan> @ 2020-05-19 17:27 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-19 18:16 ` Danny Milosavljevic 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-19 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 41406; +Cc: Pierre Neidhardt The Docker package should not refer to the Go compiler after it is built: On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 05:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > > I haven't looked at the details, but > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > > guix size docker > > store item total self > > /gnu/store/w8gjhcw6a16rk1dvxa97bz2znal5fihm-go-1.13.9 639.1 350.7 28.2% > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > > Then > > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > > grep w8gjhcw6a16rk1dvxa97bz2znal5fihm dockerd > > Binary file dockerd matches > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > I don't think that package is using the go-build-system, so that is > probably the reason for the bogus reference. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-19 17:27 ` bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-19 18:16 ` Danny Milosavljevic 2020-05-19 18:25 ` Leo Famulari 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-19 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 795 bytes --] Hi Leo, the patch below makes the grep return nothing, but guix size still contains go. diff --git a/gnu/packages/docker.scm b/gnu/packages/docker.scm index c95ca3f9d7..bf009a792b 100644 --- a/gnu/packages/docker.scm +++ b/gnu/packages/docker.scm @@ -544,7 +544,9 @@ built-in registry server of Docker.") (install-file (string-append "bundles/dynbinary-daemon/dockerd-" (getenv "VERSION")) out-bin) - #t)))))) + #t))) + (add-after 'install 'remove-go-references + (assoc-ref go:%standard-phases 'remove-go-references))))) (inputs `(("btrfs-progs" ,btrfs-progs) ("containerd" ,containerd) ; for containerd-shim [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-19 18:16 ` Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-19 18:25 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-19 18:32 ` Danny Milosavljevic 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-19 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Danny Milosavljevic; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 971 bytes --] On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 08:16:41PM +0200, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > Hi Leo, > > the patch below makes the grep return nothing, but guix size still contains go. What about `guix gc --references /gnu/store/...-docker`? > > diff --git a/gnu/packages/docker.scm b/gnu/packages/docker.scm > index c95ca3f9d7..bf009a792b 100644 > --- a/gnu/packages/docker.scm > +++ b/gnu/packages/docker.scm > @@ -544,7 +544,9 @@ built-in registry server of Docker.") > (install-file (string-append "bundles/dynbinary-daemon/dockerd-" > (getenv "VERSION")) > out-bin) > - #t)))))) > + #t))) > + (add-after 'install 'remove-go-references > + (assoc-ref go:%standard-phases 'remove-go-references))))) > (inputs > `(("btrfs-progs" ,btrfs-progs) > ("containerd" ,containerd) ; for containerd-shim > [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-19 18:25 ` Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-19 18:32 ` Danny Milosavljevic 2020-05-19 18:43 ` Julien Lepiller ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-19 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 126 bytes --] On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:25:23 -0400 Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > guix gc --references Doesn't contain go. [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-19 18:32 ` Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-19 18:43 ` Julien Lepiller 2020-05-19 19:00 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-20 6:16 ` Pierre Neidhardt 2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Julien Lepiller @ 2020-05-19 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Danny Milosavljevic, Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt Le 19 mai 2020 14:32:34 GMT-04:00, Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> a écrit : >On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:25:23 -0400 >Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > >> guix gc --references > >Doesn't contain go. You can try guix graph -t references --path /gnu/store/…-docker /gnu/store/…-go That should tell you which package references go and how it gets in the closure of docker. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-19 18:32 ` Danny Milosavljevic 2020-05-19 18:43 ` Julien Lepiller @ 2020-05-19 19:00 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-19 19:05 ` Danny Milosavljevic 2020-05-20 6:16 ` Pierre Neidhardt 2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-19 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Danny Milosavljevic; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 234 bytes --] On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 08:32:34PM +0200, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:25:23 -0400 > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > > > guix gc --references > > Doesn't contain go. Then your patch works! [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-19 19:00 ` Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-19 19:05 ` Danny Milosavljevic 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-19 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406-done, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 123 bytes --] Hi Leo, > Then your patch works! ok! Pushed to guix master as commit f523eaba7b5460937a230a824550243d75e5f1dc. [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-19 18:32 ` Danny Milosavljevic 2020-05-19 18:43 ` Julien Lepiller 2020-05-19 19:00 ` Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-20 6:16 ` Pierre Neidhardt 2020-05-20 16:43 ` Leo Famulari 2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Pierre Neidhardt @ 2020-05-20 6:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Danny Milosavljevic, Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 277 bytes --] Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> writes: > On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:25:23 -0400 > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > >> guix gc --references > > Doesn't contain go. So why did `guix size` contain go? -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 487 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-20 6:16 ` Pierre Neidhardt @ 2020-05-20 16:43 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-20 17:05 ` Marius Bakke ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-20 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pierre Neidhardt; +Cc: 41406 On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 08:16:32AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> writes: > > > On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:25:23 -0400 > > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > > > >> guix gc --references > > > > Doesn't contain go. > > So why did `guix size` contain go? `guix size` also accounts for build-time dependencies, and Docker is written in Go. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-20 16:43 ` Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-20 17:05 ` Marius Bakke 2020-05-20 18:30 ` Julien Lepiller 2020-05-20 21:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt 2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Marius Bakke @ 2020-05-20 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari, Pierre Neidhardt; +Cc: 41406 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 615 bytes --] Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes: > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 08:16:32AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >> Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> writes: >> >> > On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:25:23 -0400 >> > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: >> > >> >> guix gc --references >> > >> > Doesn't contain go. >> >> So why did `guix size` contain go? > > `guix size` also accounts for build-time dependencies, and Docker is > written in Go. `guix size` only looks at the closure size. One of Dockers dependencies must be carrying the spurious Go reference (guix graph might help here). [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 487 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-20 16:43 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-20 17:05 ` Marius Bakke @ 2020-05-20 18:30 ` Julien Lepiller 2020-05-21 9:41 ` zimoun 2020-05-20 21:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt 2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Julien Lepiller @ 2020-05-20 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari, Pierre Neidhardt; +Cc: 41406 Le 20 mai 2020 12:43:16 GMT-04:00, Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> a écrit : >On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 08:16:32AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >> Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> writes: >> >> > On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:25:23 -0400 >> > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: >> > >> >> guix gc --references >> > >> > Doesn't contain go. >> >> So why did `guix size` contain go? > >`guix size` also accounts for build-time dependencies, and Docker is >written in Go. As I said: guix graph -t references --path /gnu/store/…-docker /gnu/store/…-go Should give you the shortest path from docker to go, looking only at references. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-20 18:30 ` Julien Lepiller @ 2020-05-21 9:41 ` zimoun 2020-05-21 16:20 ` Leo Famulari 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: zimoun @ 2020-05-21 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Julien Lepiller; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 20:31, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> wrote: > guix graph -t references --path /gnu/store/…-docker /gnu/store/…-go > > Should give you the shortest path from docker to go, looking only at references. It seems that the culprit is the package 'runc'. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- guix graph -t references \ /gnu/store/scmx1fphz8kphx37rbckiqvkkh125y6d-docker-19.03.7 \ --path \ /gnu/store/w8gjhcw6a16rk1dvxa97bz2znal5fihm-go-1.13.9 /gnu/store/scmx1fphz8kphx37rbckiqvkkh125y6d-docker-19.03.7 /gnu/store/vycnhl10jc3jv4yc7dy1p6maykipidkp-runc-1.0.0-rc6 /gnu/store/w8gjhcw6a16rk1dvxa97bz2znal5fihm-go-1.13.9 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-21 9:41 ` zimoun @ 2020-05-21 16:20 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-26 14:17 ` Danny Milosavljevic 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-21 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zimoun; +Cc: Pierre Neidhardt, 41406 On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:41:54AM +0200, zimoun wrote: > On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 20:31, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> wrote: > > > guix graph -t references --path /gnu/store/…-docker /gnu/store/…-go > > > > Should give you the shortest path from docker to go, looking only at references. > > It seems that the culprit is the package 'runc'. > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > guix graph -t references \ > /gnu/store/scmx1fphz8kphx37rbckiqvkkh125y6d-docker-19.03.7 \ > --path \ > /gnu/store/w8gjhcw6a16rk1dvxa97bz2znal5fihm-go-1.13.9 > > /gnu/store/scmx1fphz8kphx37rbckiqvkkh125y6d-docker-19.03.7 > /gnu/store/vycnhl10jc3jv4yc7dy1p6maykipidkp-runc-1.0.0-rc6 > /gnu/store/w8gjhcw6a16rk1dvxa97bz2znal5fihm-go-1.13.9 > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- We should make the linter complain about this reference. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-21 16:20 ` Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-26 14:17 ` Danny Milosavljevic 2020-05-26 16:24 ` Leo Famulari 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-26 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 338 bytes --] Hi Leo, On Thu, 21 May 2020 12:20:09 -0400 Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > We should make the linter complain about this [go] reference. What do you mean exactly? How would it know, given that that was a runtime dependency? Would guix lint build the derivation and check for references to go etc? Sounds doable. [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-26 14:17 ` Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-26 16:24 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-27 11:53 ` Danny Milosavljevic 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-26 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Danny Milosavljevic; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 04:17:01PM +0200, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > Hi Leo, > > On Thu, 21 May 2020 12:20:09 -0400 > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > > > We should make the linter complain about this [go] reference. > > What do you mean exactly? How would it know, given that that was a runtime > dependency? Would guix lint build the derivation and check for references > to go etc? Sounds doable. I had confused this sitation with the linter's warnings about "inputs that should be native". It's probably not worth adding a linter check for this, because everyone should be using the go-build-system for their Go packages, and if it doesn't work, that's a bug in the build system, not in the package definition :) I don't think the linter should build things and check for spurious references. At least, not just for this case. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-26 16:24 ` Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-27 11:53 ` Danny Milosavljevic 2020-05-27 17:22 ` Leo Famulari 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-27 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 416 bytes --] Hi Leo, On Tue, 26 May 2020 12:24:22 -0400 Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > It's probably not worth adding a linter check for this, because everyone > should be using the go-build-system for their Go packages, and if it > doesn't work, that's a bug in the build system, not in the package Hmm, but runc--the culprit here--does use go-build-system and still retains a go reference erroneously. [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-27 11:53 ` Danny Milosavljevic @ 2020-05-27 17:22 ` Leo Famulari 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-27 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Danny Milosavljevic; +Cc: 41406, Pierre Neidhardt [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 528 bytes --] On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 01:53:29PM +0200, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > Hi Leo, > > On Tue, 26 May 2020 12:24:22 -0400 > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote: > > > It's probably not worth adding a linter check for this, because everyone > > should be using the go-build-system for their Go packages, and if it > > doesn't work, that's a bug in the build system, not in the package > > Hmm, but runc--the culprit here--does use go-build-system and still retains > a go reference erroneously. Yup, it's a bug! [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-20 16:43 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-20 17:05 ` Marius Bakke 2020-05-20 18:30 ` Julien Lepiller @ 2020-05-20 21:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt 2020-05-20 23:01 ` Leo Famulari 2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Pierre Neidhardt @ 2020-05-20 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 285 bytes --] Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes: > `guix size` also accounts for build-time dependencies, and Docker is > written in Go. Are you sure about this? Marius seems to disagree unless I'm misunderstanding the two statements. -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 487 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-20 21:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt @ 2020-05-20 23:01 ` Leo Famulari 2020-05-21 7:02 ` Pierre Neidhardt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-20 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pierre Neidhardt; +Cc: 41406 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 530 bytes --] On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:09:37PM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes: > > > `guix size` also accounts for build-time dependencies, and Docker is > > written in Go. > > Are you sure about this? Marius seems to disagree unless I'm > misunderstanding the two statements. I thought I was correct but it's certainly possible I'm wrong! The manual isn't clear IMO and I don't have time to read the code. The `guix graph` suggestions should help get to the bottom of it, though. [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* bug#41406: Docker package retains Go references (was Re: Guix closure size of a system?) 2020-05-20 23:01 ` Leo Famulari @ 2020-05-21 7:02 ` Pierre Neidhardt 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Pierre Neidhardt @ 2020-05-21 7:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: 41406 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 389 bytes --] Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes: > I thought I was correct but it's certainly possible I'm wrong! The > manual isn't clear IMO and I don't have time to read the code. I remember having a similar confusion in the past. We should make it more explicit what `guix size` does compared to `guix gc --references' for instance. -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 487 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
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