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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
Cc: 22883@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22883: Authenticating a Git checkout
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 13:04:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87inxp2p22.fsf@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160603201717.GB32008@jasmine> (Leo Famulari's message of "Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:17:17 -0400")

Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis:

> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 06:12:47PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Hello!
>> 
>> So we sign Git commits, and now we want to authenticate Git checkouts.
>> There’s a series of bad news.
>> 
>> First, ‘git pull’ doesn’t do it for you, you have to pass ‘--verify’ and
>> there’s no way to set it globally.
>
> Since Git already has the git-verify-commit tool, I bet we could
> convince the Git project to implement this as a repo configuration
> option. Even better if we brought a patch :)

Sure.  :-)

>> Third, as I wrote before¹, relying on the OpenPGP web of trust to
>> determine whether a commit is “valid” is inappropriate: what we want to
>> know is whether a commit was made by an authorized person, not whether
>> it was made by someone who happens to have an OpenPGP key directly or
>> indirectly certified.  IOW, we want to know whether the key used to sign
>> the commit is among the authorized developer keys.
>
> So, we need some sort of Guix keyring system, right? We'd have to verify
> that a signature was made with an authorized key, and then validate the
> signature itself? Now it's getting complicated...

Fundamentally, it’s very simple.  It’s just that OpenPGP is not designed
to do this, and GPG doesn’t help with such uses.

>> Fourth, there’s inversion of control: ‘git log’ & co. call out to ‘gpg’,
>> so if we want to do something different than just ‘gpg --verify’, we
>> have to put some other ‘gpg’ script in $PATH.  Blech.
>> 
>> Fifth, even if we did that, we’d be stuck parsing the possibly l10n’d
>> output of ‘gpg’.  Pretty fragile.
>
> According to the man pages gpg(1) and gpg2(1), the value "1" is returned
> if a signature check fails, and there are "other error codes for fatal
> errors". If these return values are consistent across GPG versions,
> maybe they provide enough information for us.

The problem is the meaning of a “signature failure.”  We need to
distinguish between the cases that appear in ‘signature-case’:

  http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/guix/pki.scm#n179

The ‘gpg’ command hardly helps with that, plus a signature is considered
“valid” if it’s made by someone “trusted” in the sense of the WoT.

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-04 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02 18:03 bug#22883: Trustable "guix pull" Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-02 19:26 ` Leo Famulari
2016-03-02 21:07   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-04-25 22:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-04-26  0:13   ` Leo Famulari
2016-04-26  0:17     ` Thompson, David
2016-04-26  7:12       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-04-30  4:43     ` Mike Gerwitz
2016-06-03 16:12       ` bug#22883: Authenticating a Git checkout Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-03 20:17         ` Leo Famulari
2016-06-04 11:04           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2016-06-04  4:24         ` Mike Gerwitz
2016-06-04 11:17           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-04 12:45             ` ng0
2016-06-06 12:20               ` ng0
2016-06-04 16:14             ` Mike Gerwitz
2016-06-05 20:39             ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-06-05 21:15               ` Leo Famulari
2016-06-06  2:41               ` Mike Gerwitz
2016-06-06  7:01                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22  8:22         ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 12:58           ` Thompson, David
2016-07-22 13:58             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-24 23:30           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-27 19:48             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-28 14:47               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-28 16:05                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-28 17:45                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-30 15:32                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-01 15:46                   ` Justus Winter
2020-05-01 16:50                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-01 17:04                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-19 20:23                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-01 14:07                       ` bug#22883: Channel introductions Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-02 23:45                         ` zimoun
2020-06-03  9:50                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-03 16:20                             ` zimoun
2020-06-04  9:55                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-01 17:20                   ` bug#22883: Authenticating a Git checkout Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-02 22:02                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-04  8:03                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-01 16:47   ` bug#22883: Discussion of TUF in the context of Git checkout authentication Ludovic Courtès
2016-05-15 12:40 ` bug#22883: Trustable "guix pull" fluxboks
2016-05-16 17:55   ` Thompson, David
2016-05-17 21:19   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-04 16:19 ` Werner Koch
2016-06-04 22:27   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-05  7:51     ` Werner Koch
2016-06-06 21:01       ` Leo Famulari
2016-06-07  8:08         ` bug#22883: gpg2 vs. gpg Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-07 11:25           ` Werner Koch
2016-06-07 12:58             ` ng0
2016-06-05  1:43   ` bug#22883: Trustable "guix pull" Mike Gerwitz
2018-08-28 19:56 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2018-09-02 16:05   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-02 17:15     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2018-09-02 20:07       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-20 22:11         ` bug#22883: Authenticating Git checkouts: step #1 Ludovic Courtès
     [not found]         ` <87mubmodfb.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
2019-12-21  1:33           ` zimoun
2019-12-27 12:58           ` Ludovic Courtès
     [not found]           ` <87eewqgc1v.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-12-27 20:47             ` Ricardo Wurmus
     [not found]             ` <87o8vto5rl.fsf@elephly.net>
2019-12-29  2:45               ` Vagrant Cascadian
     [not found]               ` <87a77bzw6p.fsf@yucca>
2019-12-29  7:34                 ` Efraim Flashner
2019-12-30 21:29                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-31 19:16 ` Jakub Kądziołka
2020-01-08 13:30   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-02 13:49 ` bug#22883: Authenticating a Git checkout John Soo
2020-06-03  9:33   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54 ` bug#22883: [PATCH 1/9] git-authenticate: Cache takes a key parameter Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 2/9] git-authenticate: 'authenticate-commits' takes a #:keyring parameter Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 3/9] tests: Move OpenPGP helpers to (guix tests gnupg) Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 4/9] channels: 'latest-channel-instance' authenticates Git checkouts Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 5/9] channels: Make 'validate-pull' call right after clone/pull Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 6/9] .guix-channel: Add 'keyring-reference' Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 7/9] channels: Automatically add introduction for the official 'guix' channel Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 8/9] pull: Add '--disable-authentication' Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 21:54   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 9/9] DROP? channels: Add prehistorical authorizations to <channel-introduction> Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-08 22:04   ` bug#22883: [PATCH 1/9] git-authenticate: Cache takes a key parameter Ludovic Courtès

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