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From: Howard Melman <hmelman@gmail.com>
To: 41129@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:40:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lypn1mp616.fsf@Lumet2.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmQAHgGJPdccKQLWzFwGXbFUEyoAw19tT1OL1pKUb5BAw@mail.gmail.com>


Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> The bindings have nothing to do with bidirectional text.  C-<RIGHT>
> and C-<LEFT> (and the corresponding M- bindings) have a meaning in
> strict left-to-right text as well: they move by words in the
> corresponding directions.

>> Does outline-mode support right-to-left oriented outlines?
>> Does org?
>
> Yes to both questions, but again: the issue at hand has nothing to do
> with bidirectional editing.

I mean yes, they do something expected in left-to-right
text, but in strict left-to-right usage these bindings are
unnecessary because of M-f and M-b.  It's not like emacs
enables cua-mode by default because other programs use those
bindings and users expect it.

Even the emacs manual says:  "This command (‘right-word’)
behaves like ‘M-f’, except it moves _backward_ by one word
if the current paragraph is right-to-left. *Note Bidirectional Editing."

>> Maybe these bindings could be in another minor-mode that
>> could be enabled by those users that want them?
>> outline-use-org-bindings-minor-mode. 
>
> I think the idea is that many users want them.

I agree.  

-- 

Howard






  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-30 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-07 20:49 bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 17:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-28  6:28   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-28  9:39     ` Pankaj Jangid
2021-01-28 15:07       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-29  4:49         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-29 20:06           ` Howard Melman
2021-01-29 22:01             ` bug#41129: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-01-30  6:23             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-30 17:39               ` Howard Melman
2021-01-30 18:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 18:48                   ` Howard Melman
2021-01-30 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 19:40                       ` Howard Melman [this message]
2021-01-30 19:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 19:10                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-09 10:38                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-09 14:31                         ` Howard Melman
2022-05-10  2:03                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-11  7:10                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-11 10:37                               ` Visuwesh
2022-05-11 11:56                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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