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From: Howard Melman <hmelman@gmail.com>
To: 41129@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 12:39:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ly1re2qq6v.fsf@Lumet2.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmQAHgGJPdccKQLWzFwGXbFUEyoAw19tT1OL1pKUb5BAw@mail.gmail.com>

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Howard Melman <hmelman@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> If I'm correct that the standard cursor movement bindings on
>> M-<right>, M-<left> you're referring to are word movement
>> commands, then they also have existing bindings on C-<right>
>> and C-<left> and are at least very similar to M-f and M-b..
>
> That these commands also have other bindings doesn't really affect how
> annoying rebinding M-<right> is for the users that are used to M-<right>.

So I'm clear, the command right-word, which is only useful
when editing bidirectional (not merely right-to-left) text ,
and even then only changes the orientation of the very basic
command forward-word (still bound to M-f), is so important
it needs TWO very similar default key bindings (M-right and
C-right).  And an optional minor-mode, when enabled, can't
shadow ONE of those bindings so that its very commonly used
command outline-demote can be, by default, on the easy to
type and remember M-right instead of only the difficult to
type and remember C-c @ C-right to match the behavior of the
very popular org-mode.

I agree that default bindings should be changed with
caution, even great caution, but IMHO if this case doesn't
meet that threshold I'm hard pressed to think of another
that can.

-- 

Howard






  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-30 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-07 20:49 bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 17:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-28  6:28   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-28  9:39     ` Pankaj Jangid
2021-01-28 15:07       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-29  4:49         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-29 20:06           ` Howard Melman
2021-01-29 22:01             ` bug#41129: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-01-30  6:23             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-30 17:39               ` Howard Melman [this message]
2021-01-30 18:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 18:48                   ` Howard Melman
2021-01-30 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 19:40                       ` Howard Melman
2021-01-30 19:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 19:10                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-09 10:38                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-09 14:31                         ` Howard Melman
2022-05-10  2:03                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-11  7:10                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-11 10:37                               ` Visuwesh
2022-05-11 11:56                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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