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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, yantar92@posteo.net, 70077@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70077: An easier way to track buffer changes
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2024 16:57:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvv84rbmze.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86il0rya4m.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 08 Apr 2024 21:36:41 +0300")

> If this indicates that the slots are of built-in-class type, why do we
> show the cryptic t there?

No, what it's saying is that these slots can contain values of any type
(since any type is a subtype of t).
This `Type` information is a way to document what kind of values can be
found in those slots.  Very often we don't bother specifying it, in
which case `t` is used as a default.

>> >> >> +By default SIGNAL is called as soon as convenient after a change, which is
>> >> >                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > "as soon as it's convenient", I presume?
>> >> Other than the extra " it's", what is the difference?
>> > Nothing.  I indeed thing "it's" is missing there.
>> My local native-English representative says that "both work fine"
>> (somewhat dismissively, I must add).
> In that case I'll yield, but do note that it got me stumbled.

Wow.  To me this is just as natural as "as soon as possible", tho used
admittedly less frequently.

>> > In general, when I want to create a clean slate, I don't care too much
>> > about the dirt I remove.  Why is it important to signal errors because
>> > a state I am dumping had some errors?
>> I don't understand why you think it will signal an error?
> Doesn't cl-assert signal an error if the condition is false?

Yes.  What makes you think it will be false?

>> More to the point, it should signal an error only if I made a mistake in
>> `track-changes.el` or if you messed with the internals.
> I have the latter possibility in mind, yes.  Why catch me doing that
> when I'm cleaning up my mess, _after_ all the damage, such as it is,
> was already done?

But `track-changes--clean-state` is not a function to "clean up
the mess" any more than, say, `track-changes-fetch` or
`track-changes--before`.

>> >> >> +;;;; Extra candidates for the API.
>> >> >> +;; This could be a good alternative to using a temp-buffer like I used in
>> >> >                                                                    ^^^^^^
>> >> > "I"?
>> >> Yes, that refers to the code I wrote.
>> > We don't usually leave such style in long-term comments and
>> > documentation.
>> `grep " I " lisp/**/*.el` suggests otherwise.
> "A journey of a thousand miles begins with one first step."

I disagree with the goal, tho.
If you want, I can add something like "--Stef" at the end to clarify who
is this "I", tho nowadays I tend to rely on `C-x v h` to find that kind
of information.

The text there is just recording my thoughts about this part of the
design of the API.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-08 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-29 16:15 bug#70077: An easier way to track buffer changes Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-29 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-29 18:53   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30  6:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 14:58       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 16:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-31  2:57           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-01 11:53         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-01 14:51           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-01 17:49             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-02 14:22               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-02 15:17                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-02 16:21                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-02 17:51                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-03 12:34                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-03 12:45                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-04 17:58                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30  3:17   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30  5:09     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-29 22:20 ` phillip.lord
2024-03-29 22:59   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30  6:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 12:06     ` phillip.lord
2024-03-30 13:39       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30  9:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30 12:49   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 13:19     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30 13:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 14:09   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-05 22:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-06  8:43   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 15:24     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-08 15:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 17:17         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-08 17:27           ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-08 18:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 20:57             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-04-09  4:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 20:45       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09  3:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-09 23:30           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-13 13:44             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-06 17:37   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-06 19:44     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-07 14:40       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-07 15:47         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-07 14:07   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-08 16:06     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09 17:35       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-10  2:02         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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