From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, yantar92@posteo.net, 70077@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70077: An easier way to track buffer changes
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2024 16:57:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvv84rbmze.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86il0rya4m.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 08 Apr 2024 21:36:41 +0300")
> If this indicates that the slots are of built-in-class type, why do we
> show the cryptic t there?
No, what it's saying is that these slots can contain values of any type
(since any type is a subtype of t).
This `Type` information is a way to document what kind of values can be
found in those slots. Very often we don't bother specifying it, in
which case `t` is used as a default.
>> >> >> +By default SIGNAL is called as soon as convenient after a change, which is
>> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > "as soon as it's convenient", I presume?
>> >> Other than the extra " it's", what is the difference?
>> > Nothing. I indeed thing "it's" is missing there.
>> My local native-English representative says that "both work fine"
>> (somewhat dismissively, I must add).
> In that case I'll yield, but do note that it got me stumbled.
Wow. To me this is just as natural as "as soon as possible", tho used
admittedly less frequently.
>> > In general, when I want to create a clean slate, I don't care too much
>> > about the dirt I remove. Why is it important to signal errors because
>> > a state I am dumping had some errors?
>> I don't understand why you think it will signal an error?
> Doesn't cl-assert signal an error if the condition is false?
Yes. What makes you think it will be false?
>> More to the point, it should signal an error only if I made a mistake in
>> `track-changes.el` or if you messed with the internals.
> I have the latter possibility in mind, yes. Why catch me doing that
> when I'm cleaning up my mess, _after_ all the damage, such as it is,
> was already done?
But `track-changes--clean-state` is not a function to "clean up
the mess" any more than, say, `track-changes-fetch` or
`track-changes--before`.
>> >> >> +;;;; Extra candidates for the API.
>> >> >> +;; This could be a good alternative to using a temp-buffer like I used in
>> >> > ^^^^^^
>> >> > "I"?
>> >> Yes, that refers to the code I wrote.
>> > We don't usually leave such style in long-term comments and
>> > documentation.
>> `grep " I " lisp/**/*.el` suggests otherwise.
> "A journey of a thousand miles begins with one first step."
I disagree with the goal, tho.
If you want, I can add something like "--Stef" at the end to clarify who
is this "I", tho nowadays I tend to rely on `C-x v h` to find that kind
of information.
The text there is just recording my thoughts about this part of the
design of the API.
Stefan
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2024-03-29 16:15 bug#70077: An easier way to track buffer changes Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-29 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-29 18:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-31 2:57 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-01 11:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-01 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-01 17:49 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-02 14:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-02 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-02 16:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-02 17:51 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-03 12:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-03 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-04 17:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30 3:17 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 5:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-29 22:20 ` phillip.lord
2024-03-29 22:59 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 12:06 ` phillip.lord
2024-03-30 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 9:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30 12:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 13:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-05 22:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-06 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 15:24 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-08 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 17:17 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-08 17:27 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-08 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-04-09 4:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-08 20:45 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09 3:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-09 23:30 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-13 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-06 17:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-06 19:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-07 14:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-07 15:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-07 14:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-08 16:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09 17:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-10 2:02 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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