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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 10:10:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zg2ri9g9.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pm3nlbm7.fsf@posteo.net> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Wed,  16 Aug 2023 06:51:29 +0000")

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Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>>
>>>>>> It is used specially for reproducing bugs in a clean environment, see it
>>>>>> as emacs -Q for Emacs when reporting bugs. This script starts Emacs -Q
>>>>>> with only Helm loaded, this ensure the bug if one comes from Helm and
>>>>>> not another package. This is important especially nowaday people are
>>>>>> using "Emacs distribution" with the world list of packages installed.
>>>>>> Apart that the script is useful to quickly launch Emacs with helm, one
>>>>>> can use it from the Helm directory or symlinked to e.g. ~/bin. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I see.  In that case is there any reason you implement this as a shell
>>>>> script?
>>>>
>>>> Well when I wrote the script, packages where not existing and from
>>>> outside emacs it is actually the only way to run a package isolated.
>>>>
>>>>> (It might be interesting to provide something like this for
>>>>> package.el, to test packages in a generic way.)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this would be interesting, it would be something like this:
>>>>
>>>> Emacs -Q
>>>> M-x <A command that run a package alone, isolated from other
>>>> packages nuisances>
>>>
>>> I was actually thinking of a command like
>>>
>>> M-x package-isolate RET foo,bar,baz RET
>>>
>>> and a new instance of Emacs using -Q is spun up, with all the packages
>>> you have listed loaded, and nothing else... Sounds like a fun little
>>> weekend project ;^)
>>
>> Here is my first attempt at providing this kind of a command.  Any
>> comments?
>
> Why not reusing package.el functions?
> Why do you want to start in an isolated elpa directory?
> Isn't something like this suffice? (just missing to fallback to CRM when
> helm is not available)

I don't know much about Helm, but does it not support CRM?

>     (defun package-isolate (packages)
>       "Start an uncustomised Emacs and only load a set of PACKAGES."
>       (interactive
>        (list (let ((helm-comp-read-use-marked t))
>                (completing-read "Packages: " (mapcar #'car (package--alist))))))

This doesn't allow selecting specific package versions, in case multiple
are installed (which might easily happen if you use package-vc).  I
stole the code in my patch from package-delete, and I guess it would be
possible to generalise it into a utility function.

>       (let* ((name (concat "package-isolate-" (mapconcat #'identity
>                                                          packages ",")))

This doesn't work, because the above returns a string, not a list of strings.

>              (deps (cl-loop for p in packages
>                             for sym = (intern p)
>                             append (package--dependencies sym))))
>         (apply #'start-process (concat "*" name "*") nil
>                (list (file-truename (expand-file-name invocation-name invocation-directory))
>                      "--quick" "--debug-init"
>                      (format "--eval=%S"
>                              `(progn
>                                (require 'warnings)
>                                (add-to-list 'warning-suppress-log-types 'initialization)
>                                (require 'package)
>                                (setq package-load-list
>                                 ',(append (mapcar (lambda (p) (list (intern p) t)) packages)
>                                           (mapcar (lambda (p) (list p t)) deps)))
>                                (package-initialize)))))))

This is actually a good idea, assuming there are no issues with lexical
scoping that might arise from --eval.  I didn't think of using
package-load-list here, but it seems that this only works if we don't
add --init-directory, because otherwise the elpa/ directory is not
populated.  It seems to me, that for a proper isolated environment, we
should add a --init-directory option.  This is easy to fix though, we
just need to specify `package-user-dir' at startup.  Here is my updated
patch, merging our approaches:


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From 6ae48d6d28112d487ea09ca905814da47c2a26cf Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 18:39:14 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Add command to start Emacs with specific packages

* lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package--dependencies): Extend function
to handle and return package descriptors.
(package-isolate): Add new command.
* etc/NEWS: Announce new command.
---
 etc/NEWS                   |  6 ++++
 lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
 2 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
index 57f04609679..c374695a571 100644
--- a/etc/NEWS
+++ b/etc/NEWS
@@ -505,6 +505,12 @@ project, that you can quickly select using 'project-switch-project'
 When non-nil, package specifications with side-effects for building
 software will be used when building a package.
 
+---
+*** New command to start Emacs only with specific packages
+The command 'package-isolate' is equivalent to starting Emacs with the
+-Q flag and loading specific packages (and their dependencies)
+manually.
+
 ** Flymake
 
 +++
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
index b3062d2608b..9e969ce1024 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
@@ -2330,12 +2330,26 @@ package-upgrade-all
       (mapc #'package-upgrade upgradeable))))
 
 (defun package--dependencies (pkg)
-  "Return a list of all dependencies PKG has.
-This is done recursively."
-  ;; Can we have circular dependencies?  Assume "nope".
-  (when-let* ((desc (cadr (assq pkg package-archive-contents)))
-              (deps (mapcar #'car (package-desc-reqs desc))))
-    (delete-dups (apply #'nconc deps (mapcar #'package--dependencies deps)))))
+  "Return a list of all recursive dependencies of PKG.
+If PKG is a package descriptor, the return value will consist of
+a list of package descriptors.  If PKG is a symbol, designating a
+package, the return value will be a list of symbols designating
+packages."
+  (when-let* ((desc (if (package-desc-p pkg) pkg
+                      (cadr (assq pkg package-archive-contents)))))
+    ;; Can we have circular dependencies?  Assume "nope".
+    (let ((all (named-let more ((pkg-desc desc))
+                 (let (deps)
+                   (dolist (req (package-desc-reqs pkg-desc))
+                     (setq deps (nconc
+                                 (catch 'found
+                                   (dolist (p (apply #'append (mapcar #'cdr (package--alist))))
+                                     (when (and (string= (car req) (package-desc-name p))
+                                                (version-list-<= (cadr req) (package-desc-version p)))
+                                       (throw 'found (more p)))))
+                                 deps)))
+                   (delete-dups (cons pkg-desc deps))))))
+      (remq pkg (mapcar (if (package-desc-p pkg) #'identity #'package-desc-name) all)))))
 
 (defun package-strip-rcs-id (str)
   "Strip RCS version ID from the version string STR.
@@ -2625,6 +2639,37 @@ package-autoremove
                   removable))
         (message "Nothing to autoremove")))))
 
+(defun package-isolate (packages)
+  "Start an uncustomised Emacs and only load a set of PACKAGES."
+  (interactive
+   (cl-loop for p in (cl-loop for p in (package--alist) append (cdr p))
+	    unless (package-built-in-p p)
+	    collect (cons (package-desc-full-name p) p) into table
+	    finally return
+	    (list (cl-loop for c in (completing-read-multiple
+                                     "Isolate packages: " table
+                                     nil t)
+		           collect (alist-get c table nil nil #'string=)))))
+  (let* ((name (concat "package-isolate-"
+                       (mapconcat #'package-desc-full-name packages ",")))
+         package-load-list)
+    (dolist (package (append packages (mapcan #'package--dependencies packages)))
+      (push (list (package-desc-name package)
+                  (package-version-join (package-desc-version package)))
+              package-load-list))
+    (apply #'start-process (concat "*" name "*") nil
+           (list (expand-file-name invocation-name invocation-directory)
+                 "--quick" "--debug-init"
+                 "--init-directory" (make-temp-file name t)
+                 (format "--eval=%S"
+                         `(progn
+                            (require 'warnings)
+                            (add-to-list 'warning-suppress-log-types 'initialization)
+                            (require 'package)
+                            (setq package-user-dir ,(expand-file-name package-user-dir)
+                                  package-load-list ',package-load-list)
+                            (package-initialize)))))))
+
 \f
 ;;;; Package description buffer.
 
-- 
2.39.2


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>> [2. text/x-diff; 0002-Add-command-to-start-Emacs-with-specific-packages.patch]...
>>
>> [3. text/x-diff; 0001-Add-a-function-to-query-the-Emacs-executable.patch]...

I have slightly modified your version, fixing issues I had, in case
anyone else wants to try it out:

        (defun package-isolate (packages)
          "Start an uncustomised Emacs and only load a set of PACKAGES."
          (interactive
           (list (mapcar #'intern (completing-read-multiple "Packages: " (mapcar #'car (package--alist))))))
          (let* ((name (concat "package-isolate-" (mapconcat #'symbol-name packages ",")))
                 (deps (mapcan #'package--dependencies packages)))
            (apply #'start-process (concat "*" name "*") nil
                   (list (file-truename (expand-file-name invocation-name invocation-directory))
                         "--quick" "--debug-init"
                         (format "--eval=%S"
                                 `(progn
                                    (require 'warnings)
                                    (add-to-list 'warning-suppress-log-types 'initialization)
                                    (require 'package)
                                    (setq package-load-list
                                          ',(mapcar (lambda (p) (list p t)) (append packages deps)))
                                    (package-initialize)))))))

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-16 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07  7:57 Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-07 13:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-07 18:19   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-07 20:33     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08  4:33       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-08  5:52         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08  6:17           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-15 16:55           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-15 17:34             ` Eshel Yaron
2023-08-15 19:39               ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 10:53                 ` Adam Porter
2023-08-15 18:56             ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-15 19:52               ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 11:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-16 18:48                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16  6:51             ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 10:10               ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2023-08-16 10:14                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 11:03                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 11:55                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 18:34                       ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 18:49                         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-16 19:00                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17  5:30                         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17  8:34                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17  9:07                             ` Eshel Yaron
2023-08-17 14:19                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 13:32                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 14:04                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 14:15                                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 13:56                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 14:18                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 14:28                               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 18:17                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-18  4:57                                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-18  5:44                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18  7:49                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-18 12:43                                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-18 18:34                                       ` Adding package and package-vc to ELPA Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-19 10:26                                         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20  6:40                             ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20  7:51                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-20 16:06                               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 18:41                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-20 19:15                                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 20:24                                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 20:28                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 14:10                 ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-16 18:52                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08  6:01       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-08  6:34       ` Michael Albinus
2023-08-08 16:37         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 16:41           ` Michael Albinus
2023-08-09  7:06             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 11:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09 14:53                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 14:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09 15:24                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 16:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09  3:47   ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-08-09 21:55 No Wayman

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