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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: thievol@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal for 'package-isolate' command
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 14:25:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v8df8c0i.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r0o4jd6n.fsf_-_@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Tue, 15 Aug 2023 19:52:32 +0000)

> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> Cc: thievol@posteo.net,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 19:52:32 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Seems strange to me to have a command to start another Emacs.  Why not
> > implement this as a command-line option instead?  That would be
> > consistent with the several options we already have, like -q, -Q, -D,
> > which already contrl what happens at startup.
> 
> Mainly because this wouldn't support a completing-read interface, that
> simplifies prompting the user for a set of packages.

Shells can complete as well, right?  And once you typed the command
once, shells have features to help you invoke commands from history,
so you won't need to retype it more than once.

> But perhaps the bulk of this command could be implemented as a CLI
> option, that this command could wrap?

Maybe.  But again, it's strange to have to launch another process from
Emacs for such a simple functionality.  And if the number of packages
to load is large, typing them manually would be annoying anyway, so
people will probably store the list in a file or something?  So maybe
we should allow specifying a file with the list of packages as well?

> >> +          (make-symbolic-link real link t)
> >
> > Using symbolic links makes the program less portable, so it is best to
> > avoid them.
> 
> The reason I used them here, instead of just adding the directories
> under ~/.config/emacs/elpa/ is that startup.el issues a warning along
> the lines of
> 
>   Your `load-path' seems to contain your `user-emacs-directory' ...
> 
> My previous patch actually included the code that suppresses all
> warnings during initialisation, so I've removed this hack.

I don't understand how this is different from a "normal" startup of
Emacs with all the packages.  Here, you just want to load part of the
packages that are loaded normally, so why does this warning pop up in
this case, but not when Emacs starts "normally"?  I'm probably missing
something.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-16 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07  7:57 Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-07 13:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-07 18:19   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-07 20:33     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08  4:33       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-08  5:52         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08  6:17           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-15 16:55           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-15 17:34             ` Eshel Yaron
2023-08-15 19:39               ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 10:53                 ` Adam Porter
2023-08-15 18:56             ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-15 19:52               ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 11:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-08-16 18:48                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16  6:51             ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 10:10               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 10:14                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 11:03                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 11:55                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 18:34                       ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 18:49                         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-16 19:00                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17  5:30                         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17  8:34                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17  9:07                             ` Eshel Yaron
2023-08-17 14:19                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 13:32                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 14:04                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 14:15                                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 13:56                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 14:18                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 14:28                               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 18:17                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-18  4:57                                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-18  5:44                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18  7:49                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-18 12:43                                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-18 18:34                                       ` Adding package and package-vc to ELPA Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-19 10:26                                         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20  6:40                             ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20  7:51                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-20 16:06                               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 18:41                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-20 19:15                                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 20:24                                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 20:28                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 14:10                 ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-16 18:52                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08  6:01       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-08  6:34       ` Michael Albinus
2023-08-08 16:37         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 16:41           ` Michael Albinus
2023-08-09  7:06             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 11:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09 14:53                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 14:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09 15:24                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 16:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09  3:47   ` Richard Stallman

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