From: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>,
Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal for 'package-isolate' command
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:15:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875y5doiix.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fs4hhijq.fsf@posteo.net>
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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
> Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Hello Philip,
>>
>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>>
>>> Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>> No don't worry, helm will work in any cases, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, in that case I'd prefer to keep it the way it is.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, fair enough.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Mainly to avoid issues with packages that might place files in the
>>>>>>> configuration directory, which might hinder the reproduction of bugs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, maybe, I don't have an example in mind though.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might not be the best example, but my package autocrypt generates a
>>>>> file in the `user-emacs-directory'. If we don't use --init-directory,
>>>>> the existing file would be re-used.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, for such case it is easy to either rename the file temporarily to
>>>> foo_ori or foo_save or to set the variable handling the file (generally
>>>> it is not harcoded) to something else. But another issue is if your
>>>> isolated package needs the history file or tramp file or whatever file
>>>> ~/.emacs.d is handling; e.g. a package providing completion on history.
>>>> I still think it is more handy to reuse user-emacs-directory and its
>>>> elpa directory where the packages are already installed.
>>>
>>> How about this patch, that will use a temporary directory when
>>> `package-isolate' is invoked with a prefix argument (not sure what the
>>> default should be, I guess reusing `user-emacs-directory' is less
>>> surprising):
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Isn't these two loop the same? (save one loop)
>
> No, because that assumes that we are only interested in the first
> package descriptor in every package--alist entry, while there might be
> multiple.
Ah ok.
>> (cl-loop for p in (cl-loop for p in (package--alist) append (cdr p))
>> unless (package-built-in-p p)
>
> Also, do we want this or wouldn't it be useful to be able to force a
> built-in package being loaded?
Some packages seems to require a specific version of a package for their
dependency e.g. seq, by excluding it the package may not work correctly,
this is my understanding but I may be wrong. Also perhaps the package
e.g. seq is selected later when computing dependencies but maybe user
wants to select a particular version manually in the first place?
--
Thierry
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-17 14:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-07 7:57 Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-07 13:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-07 18:19 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-07 20:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 4:33 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-08 5:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 6:17 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-15 16:55 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-15 17:34 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-08-15 19:39 ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 10:53 ` Adam Porter
2023-08-15 18:56 ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-15 19:52 ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-16 18:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 6:51 ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 10:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 10:14 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 11:03 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 11:55 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-16 18:34 ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 18:49 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-16 19:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 5:30 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 8:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 9:07 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-08-17 14:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 13:32 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 14:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 14:15 ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2023-08-17 13:56 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 14:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-17 14:28 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-17 18:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-18 4:57 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-18 5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 7:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-18 12:43 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-18 18:34 ` Adding package and package-vc to ELPA Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-19 10:26 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 6:40 ` Proposal for 'package-isolate' command Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 7:51 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-20 16:06 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 18:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-20 19:15 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 20:24 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-20 20:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-16 14:10 ` Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-16 18:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 6:01 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2023-08-08 6:34 ` Michael Albinus
2023-08-08 16:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 16:41 ` Michael Albinus
2023-08-09 7:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09 14:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09 15:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-09 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-09 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
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