From: Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 57555@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57555: 29.0.50; variable-pitch font issue with medium weight default font
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2022 03:06:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rmymh9z.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pmgdnfhs.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii writes:
[...]
>
> Thanks, but please show the font setup you are using; without that, the
> "instead of the correct sans-serif variable-pitch font" part is
> impossible to interpret.
Thanks for your reply, Eli. Globally, I'm basically using the default
font setup that Trisquel GNU/Linux comes with. Here is a tarball of
the /etc/fonts/ directory on my system:
https://kelar.org/~bandali/tmp/20220903/etc-fonts.tar.gz
Beyond that, I have a few additional local (user-specific) settings in
in my ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf, but this is the main relevant
excerpt, where I specify that sans-serif should be GNU FreeSans (and
this works basically in all applications, including Firefox-based
browsers, and until recently Emacs as well):
<alias binding="strong">
<family>sans-serif</family>
<prefer>
<family>FreeSans</family>
<family>Sahel WOL</family>
<family>Liberation Sans</family>
<family>Roboto</family>
</prefer>
</alias>
The complete file is available from:
https://kelar.org/~bandali/tmp/20220903/fonts.conf
> Also, do you have the medium (not regular) variant of the GNU FreeSans
> font installed? If not, can you install it and try again?
As far as I can tell, GNU FreeSans does not have a medium variant;
only regular, bold, oblique, and bold oblique:
$ ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans*.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansBoldOblique.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansBold.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansOblique.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans.ttf
I suppose what might be happening here is that Emacs now tries to use
a medium variant for the variable-pitch GNU FreeSans as well (even
though I'd expect that 'medium' to only apply to the font I explicitly
mentioned it for, i.e. Source Code Pro), which does not have such a
variant, and then it falls all the way back to "misc-fixed". What is
a bit curious, though, is that this doesn't seem to affect italic
variable-pitch text, and Emacs correctly picks GNU FreeSans oblique
for that just fine.
> What seems to happen here is that Emacs decides that the font you
> don't like is a better match than the one you do like. Which is not a
> serious problem from my POV (as long as the text is legible), just a
> minor aesthetic annoyance. To fix such annoyances, one must tune
> one's font configuration. But even if the annoyance stays, it's
> definitely less serious than the original problem which that commit
> attempted to fix.
>
> Thanks.
>
Right. For what it's worth, I find Emacs picking misc-fixed for
variable-pitch text more than just a minor annoyance: for long hours
of use, I find misc-fixed it considerably less comfortable to my eyes
than GNU FreeSans (for proportional/variable-pitch) or Source Code Pro
medium (for monospace).
Thanks again,
-a
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-05 7:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-03 1:35 bug#57555: 29.0.50; variable-pitch font issue with medium weight default font Amin Bandali
2022-09-03 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-05 7:06 ` Amin Bandali [this message]
2022-09-05 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-05 15:08 ` Amin Bandali
2022-09-05 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-05 18:19 ` Amin Bandali
2022-09-05 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-05 21:17 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-06 8:08 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-06 13:09 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-06 14:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-06 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-07 12:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-07 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-08 11:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-08 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 13:57 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 15:27 ` Amin Bandali
2022-11-20 15:46 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 16:13 ` Amin Bandali
2022-11-20 17:01 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-10 22:54 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06 2:34 ` Amin Bandali
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