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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org>
Cc: 57555@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57555: 29.0.50; variable-pitch font issue with medium weight default font
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2022 14:57:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <834jxmkp9f.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rmymh9z.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Amin Bandali on Mon, 05 Sep 2022 03:06:48 -0400)

> From: Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org>
> Cc: 57555@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2022 03:06:48 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
> [...]
> >
> > Thanks, but please show the font setup you are using; without that, the
> > "instead of the correct sans-serif variable-pitch font" part is
> > impossible to interpret.
> 
> Thanks for your reply, Eli.  Globally, I'm basically using the default
> font setup that Trisquel GNU/Linux comes with.  Here is a tarball of
> the /etc/fonts/ directory on my system:

Thanks, but I meant the font setup specific to Emacs, i.e.:

  . any set-fontest-font calls in your init files
  . any set-frame-font calls or any other face-related calls in your
    init files that could affect the font selection

Sorry for my imprecise wording.

> > Also, do you have the medium (not regular) variant of the GNU FreeSans
> > font installed?  If not, can you install it and try again?
> 
> As far as I can tell, GNU FreeSans does not have a medium variant;
> only regular, bold, oblique, and bold oblique:
> 
> $ ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans*.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansBoldOblique.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansBold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansOblique.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans.ttf
> 
> I suppose what might be happening here is that Emacs now tries to use
> a medium variant for the variable-pitch GNU FreeSans as well (even
> though I'd expect that 'medium' to only apply to the font I explicitly
> mentioned it for, i.e. Source Code Pro), which does not have such a
> variant, and then it falls all the way back to "misc-fixed".  What is
> a bit curious, though, is that this doesn't seem to affect italic
> variable-pitch text, and Emacs correctly picks GNU FreeSans oblique
> for that just fine.

I think this means that Emacs gives greater importance to consistency
in weight than to consistency of the family.  Not sure if that is TRT.

> Right.  For what it's worth, I find Emacs picking misc-fixed for
> variable-pitch text more than just a minor annoyance: for long hours
> of use, I find misc-fixed it considerably less comfortable to my eyes
> than GNU FreeSans (for proportional/variable-pitch) or Source Code Pro
> medium (for monospace).

Can't you customize the variable-pitch face to specify the FreeSans
family, or even to specify the exact font you want Emacs to use?  That
should allow you to override any built-in heuristics that Emacs uses
when it has no other restrictions.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-05 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-03  1:35 bug#57555: 29.0.50; variable-pitch font issue with medium weight default font Amin Bandali
2022-09-03  6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-05  7:06   ` Amin Bandali
2022-09-05 11:57     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-09-05 15:08       ` Amin Bandali
2022-09-05 15:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-05 18:19           ` Amin Bandali
2022-09-05 18:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-05 21:17               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06  2:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-06  8:08                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06 12:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-06 13:09                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06 13:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-06 14:28                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-06 15:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-07 12:44                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-07 13:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-08 11:42                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-08 13:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 13:57                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 15:27                                     ` Amin Bandali
2022-11-20 15:46                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 16:13                                         ` Amin Bandali
2022-11-20 17:01                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-10 22:54                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-06  2:34                 ` Amin Bandali

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