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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: 62694@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de
Subject: bug#62694: 30.0.50; eglot-tests fails with recent pylsp
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 16:57:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o7nzokwc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y1n3hnlh.fsf@gmail.com> (message from João Távora on Fri, 07 Apr 2023 13:40:42 +0100)

> From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>,  62694@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 13:40:42 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Given João's reluctance to help you to find a better solution, 
> 
> FTR I've given a solution about 20 times now that was ignored
> repeteadly.  There is no general bullet-proof solution for the problem
> of broken or misbehaving installations of external tools.  So these
> tests cannot ever be "stable".  You can mark them _all_ unstable.

Great, then we agree.

Michael, would you please mark the relevant tests unstable?

> FTR I've given a solution known to be working in an Ubuntu-based CI
> system, very similar to Debian, for almost 5 years now.  Noone seems to
> be heeding it, so what can I do?
> 
> FTR I've explained at length why the "better solution" that you and
> Michael are conjecturing to be very easy is beyond me.  In my analysis,
> there is no simple Elisp code that can, in this pylsp case, easily
> discern between a functioning installation and a malfunctioning one.
> I've asked for your suggestions on how this can be done and I've not
> received any concrete ideas.
> 
> FTR, earlier this year, I took Michael's idea of adding a version check
> to clangd for eglot-tests.el because it was relatively easy and cheap
> and shown to be working.  _Not_ because there were any reports of people
> with old clangd running make check (absolutely 0 of those too), but
> because I found it easy to do so (and why not appease good old
> Michael?).  There the argument was that in that old Debian Stable debian
> system of EMBA it was not easy to install a newer clangd.  OK.  But, for
> pylsp that is _not_ the case at all, it's a simple one liner.
> 
> So if anyone is being stubborn here, it's _not_ me.

I didn't stay you were stubborn.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-07 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06  9:55 bug#62694: 30.0.50; eglot-tests fails with recent pylsp Michael Albinus
2023-04-06 10:54 ` João Távora
2023-04-06 11:22   ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-06 12:49     ` João Távora
2023-04-06 14:58       ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-06 16:59         ` João Távora
2023-04-06 17:39           ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-06 19:50             ` João Távora
2023-04-07  7:44               ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 10:20                 ` João Távora
2023-04-07 10:29                   ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 10:47                     ` João Távora
2023-04-07 10:50                       ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 10:57                         ` João Távora
2023-04-07 11:04                           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-04-07 11:10                             ` João Távora
2023-04-07 11:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 11:20                             ` João Távora
2023-04-07 12:20                               ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 10:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 10:51                     ` João Távora
2023-04-07 10:53                       ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 10:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 11:06                         ` João Távora
2023-04-07 11:17                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 11:23                             ` João Távora
2023-04-07 11:37                               ` João Távora
2023-04-07 11:41                                 ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 11:47                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-07 11:53                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-07 12:07                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 12:13                                   ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 12:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 12:40                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-07 12:58                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-04-07 13:02                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-07 13:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-04-07 12:59                                       ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 13:48                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 13:57                                           ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 14:00                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 14:04                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-07 14:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 15:06                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 19:05                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-09 13:49                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 12:04                             ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 12:24                               ` João Távora
2023-04-07 12:47                                 ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-07 13:01                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-07 13:04                                     ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-09 11:24               ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-09 11:22       ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-09 12:41         ` João Távora
2023-04-09 13:21           ` Basil Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-09 14:45             ` João Távora
2023-04-09 15:32               ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-09 15:48                 ` João Távora
2023-04-09 16:08                   ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-09 18:17                     ` João Távora
2023-04-09 19:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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