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From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 37889523278: Add new `swap` macro and use it
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 01:25:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f5a5ec4d5e2c3c985a2@heytings.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834jfbb1pa.fsf@gnu.org>


>> FYI, the claim "Sun C 5.8, a C99 compiler that does presently produce 
>> working Emacs builds" is pure fantasy, aka fabricated evidence.  I had 
>> some free time today, I digged in my archives, and found a copy of 
>> Solaris 10 and Sun Studio 11, which I installed in a VM.  The last 
>> Emacs version for which Sun C 5.8 produces a working Emacs build is... 
>> Emacs 24.
>>
>> Much ado about nothing.  Somehow, I'm not surprised.
>
> Thanks for the information, but please avoid such sarcastic remarks 
> which border on ad-hominem, let alone accusations of "fabrication". We 
> should be able to have a discussion about technical issues without 
> resorting to personal attacks.
>

There are no accusations or personal attacks in what I said.  I'm merely 
naming upleasant facts.  Loudly and repeatedly making, to support one's 
viewpoint, a technical claim that proves to be just plain false, and doing 
that about a system configuration that is obscure enough that, in all 
likelihood, nobody on this list would have access to it, is precisely 
that: fabricating evidence out of thin air.

However, there was indeed a (light) dose of sarcasm in what I said.  We 
had been told, a few hours before my post, that either the C standards 
committee was wrong and overlooked significant information, or I was wrong 
and took their words out of their context [1].  Admire the "either / or": 
someone else must be wrong, there are no other conceivable possibilities. 
And note that we still haven't seen any of the alluded "significant 
information".  A (light) dose of sarcasm seems appropriate to deal with 
such an arrogant attitude.

[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2024-01/msg00617.html




  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-27  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20240106072311.28B8FC0034E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2024-01-06  7:39   ` master 37889523278: Add new `swap` macro and use it Po Lu
2024-01-06  8:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06  8:45       ` Po Lu
2024-01-06  9:18         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 10:33           ` Po Lu
2024-01-06 11:30             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 13:13               ` Po Lu
2024-01-06 13:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 14:41                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-06 15:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07  1:39                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-07  6:34                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07  7:50                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-07  8:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07  9:45                             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07 10:36                               ` Po Lu
2024-01-07 11:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 11:53                                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-07 14:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 17:32                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-08  2:15                                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-07  7:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12  0:50                   ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-13 10:16                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-14  3:03                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-14  5:14                     ` Po Lu
2024-01-14  7:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-14  8:05                         ` Po Lu
2024-01-14  9:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-15  1:32                             ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-15 12:41                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-15 13:56                                 ` Po Lu
2024-01-15 14:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-18  1:01                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-18  2:11                                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-27  1:26                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-27  2:58                                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 23:44                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28  1:51                                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-28  2:35                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28  4:17                                               ` Po Lu
2024-01-28  6:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28  2:22                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-28  4:03                                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-30  2:00                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-30  2:41                                               ` Po Lu
2024-01-28  6:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-30  1:59                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-30 12:41                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-18  6:22                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-27  1:25                                     ` Gregory Heytings [this message]
2024-01-27  3:08                                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-27  7:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-17  3:29                           ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-17 10:16                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-17 11:15                         ` Po Lu
2024-01-17 21:15                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-18  0:39                             ` Po Lu
2024-01-18 19:17                               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-19  1:10                                 ` Po Lu
2024-01-20 20:31                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-22  3:35                                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-22  4:48                                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-22 18:21                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-23  0:50                                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 23:38                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-26  2:02                                             ` Po Lu
2024-01-26  7:53                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26  7:38                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19  3:32                               ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-19  4:12                                 ` Po Lu
2024-01-27  1:27                               ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-27 23:56                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28  2:23                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-13  8:02       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-13  9:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-13  9:50           ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-01-06  8:50     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06  9:09       ` Po Lu
2024-01-06  9:52       ` Andreas Schwab

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