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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 37889523278: Add new `swap` macro and use it
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 10:41:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wmrrfspg.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <148534ba184067c6fc39@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Tue, 30 Jan 2024 02:00:43 +0000")

Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> writes:

> You did not, otherwise you would not have explained the build failure
> with something that had no relationship whatsoever with it.

Your build failure is one which we have _fixed_, and holds absolutely no
bearing on our expectations of C compilers.

> All that is irrelevant in the matter at hand.

You don't decide what is relevant or irrelevant.

> That's wrong.  Again you are just ignoring the information I gave
> you. So I'll say it again: alignas, a C11 feature, was introduced
> unconditionally in Emacs by e32a579975 in July 2012, and it was made
> conditional only ten years later, by 1e2bc1bbf4 in December 2021 (to
> support builds with older version of TCC).  Without the "# define
> alignas(a)" line in lisp.h, which was added by 1e2bc1bbf4 and was
> therefore not present in Emacs 25-28, Sun C 5.8 fails to compile Emacs
> 29 in the same way it fails to compile Emacs 25-28.

In e32a579975's lisp.h:

#ifndef alignas
# define alignas(alignment) /* empty */
# if USE_LSB_TAG

This definition was lost unintentionally to a succession of changes, and
promptly restored when its absence was brought to our attention.

I'm sorry to be blunt, but if in decision-making you consider and cite
only historical factors to your liking, or in argument you cannot make
the distinction between errors arising from some fundamental limitation
of a compiler and those caused by operator error, to wit, the failure to
provide several required compiler flags and install patches firmly
recommended by the supplier, whether a compiler can and should compile
Emacs is not for you to decide.  So believe what you want--you don't use
Solaris, or TCC, so the subject of your assertions cannot affect you to
any extent.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-30  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <170452579053.27998.16123231327386305897@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20240106072311.28B8FC0034E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2024-01-06  7:39   ` master 37889523278: Add new `swap` macro and use it Po Lu
2024-01-06  8:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06  8:45       ` Po Lu
2024-01-06  9:18         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 10:33           ` Po Lu
2024-01-06 11:30             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 13:13               ` Po Lu
2024-01-06 13:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 14:41                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-06 15:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07  1:39                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-07  6:34                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07  7:50                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-07  8:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07  9:45                             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07 10:36                               ` Po Lu
2024-01-07 11:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 11:53                                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-07 14:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 17:32                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-08  2:15                                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-07  7:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12  0:50                   ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-13 10:16                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-14  3:03                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-14  5:14                     ` Po Lu
2024-01-14  7:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-14  8:05                         ` Po Lu
2024-01-14  9:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-15  1:32                             ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-15 12:41                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-15 13:56                                 ` Po Lu
2024-01-15 14:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-18  1:01                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-18  2:11                                   ` Po Lu
2024-01-27  1:26                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-27  2:58                                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 23:44                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28  1:51                                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-28  2:35                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28  4:17                                               ` Po Lu
2024-01-28  6:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28  2:22                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-28  4:03                                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-30  2:00                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-30  2:41                                               ` Po Lu [this message]
2024-01-28  6:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-30  1:59                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-30 12:41                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-18  6:22                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-27  1:25                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-27  3:08                                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-27  7:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-17  3:29                           ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-17 10:16                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-17 11:15                         ` Po Lu
2024-01-17 21:15                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-18  0:39                             ` Po Lu
2024-01-18 19:17                               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-19  1:10                                 ` Po Lu
2024-01-20 20:31                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-22  3:35                                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-22  4:48                                       ` Po Lu
2024-01-22 18:21                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-23  0:50                                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 23:38                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-26  2:02                                             ` Po Lu
2024-01-26  7:53                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26  7:38                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19  3:32                               ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-19  4:12                                 ` Po Lu
2024-01-27  1:27                               ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-27 23:56                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28  2:23                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-13  8:02       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-13  9:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-13  9:50           ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-01-06  8:50     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06  9:09       ` Po Lu
2024-01-06  9:52       ` Andreas Schwab

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