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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods]
Date: 11 May 2004 09:01:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5zn8fxx9d.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200405110234.LAA06316@etlken.m17n.org>

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> In article <200405110145.i4B1jNF22171@raven.dms.auburn.edu>, Luc
> Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu> writes:
> 
> > Ken'ichi HANDA wrote:
> >    But I still believe it is better to change erase-buffer
> >    itself (perhaps it should delete all overlays too).  Let's
> >    discuss it after the next release.
> 
> This problem has been there for long (perhaps just after
> read-only text property was introduced) but has never been
> reported.  It was just revealed by my attempt to fix
> describe-char.  That means that we can live without changing
> it.
> 
> In addtion, to make a final decision, we must study how
> erase-buffer is used in various codes, which consumes our
> working time much and results in the delay of the next
> release.  I think the sooner release is more important than
> completely settling on what to do with this problem.

Can anyone think of any reason why erase-buffer should not remove the
current buffer completely?  And no, I don't think that read-only
properties on some entries in a buffer count as a reason:
erase-buffer is basically a buffer-wide operation and should only be
influenced by buffer-wide read-only-ness.

If you want to protect your buffer against erasure, set the whole
buffer to read-only.  Or signal errors in before-change-functions,
without actually doing the change.

That is easy enough to do, and much more reliable.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-11  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-29 13:03 reverting CJK input methods Werner LEMBERG
2004-04-30  1:42 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-30  2:03   ` Miles Bader
2004-04-30  2:59     ` Miles Bader
2004-04-30 11:27       ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-30 13:26         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-01  8:22           ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-02  1:57             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06  5:05               ` with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods] Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06 11:48                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06 13:10                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06 14:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 15:49                       ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-06 16:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 20:57                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-07  1:53                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-08  1:20                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-10 12:13                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-10 14:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11  7:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11  7:49                             ` David Kastrup
2004-05-12  7:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11 13:39                             ` erase-buffer (was: with-output-to-temp-buffer) Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11 14:44                               ` erase-buffer Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 16:17                                 ` erase-buffer Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 15:32                               ` erase-buffer (was: with-output-to-temp-buffer) David Kastrup
2004-05-11 16:22                                 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-11 19:30                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-12 21:10                                     ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-11 19:37                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 18:14                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 23:06                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-11 23:26                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-12 19:42                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 22:34                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-05-14  9:21                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11 23:34                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11 23:47                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 19:40                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11  1:45                         ` with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods] Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-11  2:34                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-11  7:01                             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2004-05-11  6:55                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-11  8:00                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  7:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-30  5:06     ` reverting CJK input methods Kenichi Handa
2004-04-30 16:50       ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-01  9:07         ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 17:18           ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-08  2:56         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-08 16:38           ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-10  4:40             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  2:42               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  8:32                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-12 11:10                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-01 17:21       ` Werner LEMBERG

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