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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods]
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:00:09 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200405110800.RAA07081@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x5zn8fxx9d.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on 11 May 2004 09:01:50 +0200)

In article <x5zn8fxx9d.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> Can anyone think of any reason why erase-buffer should not remove the
> current buffer completely?  And no, I don't think that read-only
> properties on some entries in a buffer count as a reason:
> erase-buffer is basically a buffer-wide operation and should only be
> influenced by buffer-wide read-only-ness.

> If you want to protect your buffer against erasure, set the whole
> buffer to read-only.  Or signal errors in before-change-functions,
> without actually doing the change.

> That is easy enough to do, and much more reliable.

Can you confirm that all lisp codes do above to protect its
managing buffer instead of just setting some part read-only?

The document of erase-buffer clearly says that it signals an
error on read-only text.

 - Command: erase-buffer
     This function deletes the entire text of the current buffer,
     leaving it empty.  If the buffer is read-only, it signals a
     `buffer-read-only' error; if some of the text in it is read-only,
     it signals a `text-read-only' error.  Otherwise, it deletes the
     text without asking for any confirmation.  It returns `nil'.

That means there may be a code depending on that feature.
We had better leave it unchanged at this moment of before
the release.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-11  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-29 13:03 reverting CJK input methods Werner LEMBERG
2004-04-30  1:42 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-30  2:03   ` Miles Bader
2004-04-30  2:59     ` Miles Bader
2004-04-30 11:27       ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-30 13:26         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-01  8:22           ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-02  1:57             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06  5:05               ` with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods] Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06 11:48                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06 13:10                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06 14:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 15:49                       ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-06 16:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 20:57                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-07  1:53                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-08  1:20                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-10 12:13                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-10 14:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11  7:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11  7:49                             ` David Kastrup
2004-05-12  7:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11 13:39                             ` erase-buffer (was: with-output-to-temp-buffer) Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11 14:44                               ` erase-buffer Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 16:17                                 ` erase-buffer Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 15:32                               ` erase-buffer (was: with-output-to-temp-buffer) David Kastrup
2004-05-11 16:22                                 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-11 19:30                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-12 21:10                                     ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-11 19:37                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 18:14                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 23:06                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-11 23:26                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-12 19:42                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 22:34                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-05-14  9:21                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11 23:34                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11 23:47                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 19:40                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11  1:45                         ` with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods] Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-11  2:34                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-11  7:01                             ` David Kastrup
2004-05-11  6:55                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-11  8:00                               ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2004-05-12  7:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-30  5:06     ` reverting CJK input methods Kenichi Handa
2004-04-30 16:50       ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-01  9:07         ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 17:18           ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-08  2:56         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-08 16:38           ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-10  4:40             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  2:42               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  8:32                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-12 11:10                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-01 17:21       ` Werner LEMBERG

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