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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, handa@m17n.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods]
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 03:51:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1BNoWK-0002xd-MA@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x5r7trxv2o.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on 11 May 2004 09:49:03 +0200)

    Well, we had this already.  If the user is supposed to be allowed to
    call erase-buffer (and I don't see anything that would make this a
    sensible proposition), then the overlays should have the 'evaporate
    property set.  Now your complaint was that user editable fields
    should probably not evaporate when empty, but the user editable
    fields are not read-only in the first place!

The user-editable fields are not read only, and they can be empty,
so the overlays must be set not to evaporate.  So this solution
does not work.

I am not sure it is necessary for Custom to work using overlays.
Maybe text properties would do the job.  They would get eliminated
too, if the whole text is deleted.

    > I think it is better for erase-buffer to get an error in the Custom
    > buffer.

    Even if you think so, I don't think that putting some read-only text
    in as a side effect is the right way to achieve this.

I think it makes sense.  To have user-editable fields in a buffer
implies that there are non-editable parts too.

    Anyway, it might be a good idea if erase-buffer also kills all
    overlays, after giving them a chance with modification-hooks and
    evaporate and whatever else there is in way of notification.

That might actually be a good idea.  I am not sure, though.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-12  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-29 13:03 reverting CJK input methods Werner LEMBERG
2004-04-30  1:42 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-30  2:03   ` Miles Bader
2004-04-30  2:59     ` Miles Bader
2004-04-30 11:27       ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-30 13:26         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-01  8:22           ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-02  1:57             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06  5:05               ` with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods] Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06 11:48                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06 13:10                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-06 14:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 15:49                       ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-06 16:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 20:57                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-07  1:53                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-08  1:20                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-10 12:13                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-10 14:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11  7:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11  7:49                             ` David Kastrup
2004-05-12  7:51                               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2004-05-11 13:39                             ` erase-buffer (was: with-output-to-temp-buffer) Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11 14:44                               ` erase-buffer Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 16:17                                 ` erase-buffer Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 15:32                               ` erase-buffer (was: with-output-to-temp-buffer) David Kastrup
2004-05-11 16:22                                 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-11 19:30                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-12 21:10                                     ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-11 19:37                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 18:14                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 23:06                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-11 23:26                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-12 19:42                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 22:34                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-05-14  9:21                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11 23:34                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11 23:47                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 19:40                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11  1:45                         ` with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods] Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-11  2:34                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-11  7:01                             ` David Kastrup
2004-05-11  6:55                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-11  8:00                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  7:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-30  5:06     ` reverting CJK input methods Kenichi Handa
2004-04-30 16:50       ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-01  9:07         ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 17:18           ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-08  2:56         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-08 16:38           ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-10  4:40             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  2:42               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12  8:32                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-05-12 11:10                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-01 17:21       ` Werner LEMBERG

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