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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: file-name-shadow-mode
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:28:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5r7ibc55r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc339e4a0503191933659e55e1@mail.gmail.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:33:13 +0900")

Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:30:57 -0600 (CST), Luc Teirlinck
> <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu> wrote:
>> In other words, rfn-eshadow.el assumes that the value of _every_
>> environment variable is an absolute file name and it yields very
>> confusing results when other environment variables are used in file
>> names, say "/home/$USER".
>
> Well I'm obviously biased, but:
>
> I doubt 99% of the people out there use environment variables while
> typing filenames _at all_.  However I'm probably one of the few that
> does -- in fact I use them heavily -- and I've _never_ wanted to use a
> relative filename from one.
>
> The functionality of rfn-eshadow is quite useful to the vast majority
> of users, and indeed is much-requested, and you want to not enable it
> because you found a minor flaw?  A flaw whose only effect is to make
> the prompt slightly less clear that it could be?  I expect that the
> traditional "double slash" behavior of Emacs filename input -- which
> is what rfn-eshadow fixes -- confuses far, _far_, more people.
>
> [I think it's probably possible to fix this -- e.g., by generating a
> regexp of all non-absolute environment variables and glomming it onto
> the rexexp used for filenames.  But my basic point is that it scarcely
> matters.]

If anyone should by chance encounter it, I'd almost be willing to bet
he'll shrug it off as "peculiarity, to be expected with that kind of
abuse".  I doubt we would get a bug report for it from anyone...

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-20  4:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-17  9:16 file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-17 12:16 ` file-name-shadow-mode Matt Hodges
2005-03-18  1:56   ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-18  1:59 ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-18  2:17   ` file-name-shadow-mode Nick Roberts
2005-03-18  4:35   ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18  4:47     ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-18  4:55       ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18  5:18       ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18  5:37       ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18 18:20       ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-19 15:21         ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-19 15:45           ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-19 16:45           ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20  2:14             ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 14:13               ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20 16:02                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 16:18                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20  2:30             ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20  3:33               ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-20  4:28                 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-03-20 17:30                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 18:10                   ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21  1:19                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 18:01                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 18:24                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 18:47                     ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-20 21:11                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 21:25                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21 13:44                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 22:24                         ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21 23:00                           ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-22 20:44                             ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-28 21:32                               ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 13:24                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 14:05                     ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 16:48                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-22  3:34                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-21 14:26                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-21 15:14                       ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 15:47                         ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 16:58                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 23:57                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-23 22:55                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-24  0:04                       ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-25  6:42                         ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-25  8:45                           ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-18  5:23 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman

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