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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: file-name-shadow-mode
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:13:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87acoyxvf7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200503200214.j2K2Efh03044@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:14:41 -0600 (CST)")

> beginning of the define-minor-mode expansion.  Otherwise, setting
> :initialize to something else but `custom-initialize-default' is
> probably not going to work for minor modes defined with
> `define-minor-mode'.  (It definitely does not work with the current
> code.)

I think it's OK that way.  Last time we had a discussion around this, it
became clear to me that the :init value should *describe* the state you
get when loading the file, rather than *decide* it.

This is because if the minor mode's code needs to be run to properly set the
value, you can't run it safely before the whole file is loaded (since the
minor mode's code might call functions defined further down in the file).

So I think it's best to keep the :init value at nil and then elsewhere
do a customize-set-variable (in startup.el, in loadup.el, or even at the
end of rfn-shadow.el).  That's the cleaner solution.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-20 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-17  9:16 file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-17 12:16 ` file-name-shadow-mode Matt Hodges
2005-03-18  1:56   ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-18  1:59 ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-18  2:17   ` file-name-shadow-mode Nick Roberts
2005-03-18  4:35   ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18  4:47     ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-18  4:55       ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18  5:18       ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18  5:37       ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18 18:20       ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-19 15:21         ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-19 15:45           ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-19 16:45           ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20  2:14             ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 14:13               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2005-03-20 16:02                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 16:18                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20  2:30             ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20  3:33               ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-20  4:28                 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-20 17:30                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 18:10                   ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21  1:19                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 18:01                 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 18:24                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 18:47                     ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-20 21:11                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 21:25                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21 13:44                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 22:24                         ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21 23:00                           ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-22 20:44                             ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-28 21:32                               ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 13:24                   ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 14:05                     ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 16:48                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-22  3:34                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-21 14:26                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-21 15:14                       ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 15:47                         ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 16:58                       ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 23:57                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-23 22:55                     ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-24  0:04                       ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-25  6:42                         ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-25  8:45                           ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-18  5:23 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman

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