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From: David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup)
Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Idea for compilation mode
Date: 06 Jun 2003 17:40:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5d6hrxlil.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1054900912.3ee082b0b4f97@webmail.isogmbh.de>

Stephan Stahl <stl@isogmbh.de> writes:

> David Kastrup <David.Kastrup@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
> > Stephan Stahl <stl@isogmbh.de> writes:
> > 
> > > If set-goal-column should be on a key maybe C-x , can be used. Thats
> > > not far away from the old C-x C-n and C-x . which is directly beside
> > > would be somehow similar in function (set-fill-prefix).  I think we
> > > should stop soon or we'll end up remapping all keys :-).
> > 
> > Which would not be the worst thing.  As I said, it would be a viable
> > task for the TODO list to go through the existing, historically grown
> > keymappings with a fine comb, try to compare the probable usefulness
> > of mappings with their mnemonic characteristics and their awkwardness
> > (taking non-American keyboard layouts somewhat into mind as well) or
> 
> Taking non-American keyboard layouts into mind seems like a very
> complicated thing.

It's not something you could hope to achieve completely, but there
are keys that are notably difficult to type on a lot of keyboards. `
and @, for example.  Not using those for the most common
functionalities can help quite a bit.

> I myself use a us-international layout because most others layouts i
> have tried are horrible to use with applications like emacs or maybe
> vi.  For example the german keyboard has not two alt keys but one
> alt and one altGr keys. To produce ] one would have to type
> altGr-9. It is not possible to type C-] (aka ESC) on a german
> keyboard because it would require both ctrl and altGr to be
> pressed.

C-] is not ESC, but GS.  C-[ is ESC, and pressing both ctrl and altGr
is quite possible on a German keyboard.

> At least i never found a keyboard / operating system where
> it is possible. Besides it would be very hard to hit all three keys
> at once.

Why would you need to do that?  First you press the modifiers, then
you press the key itself.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-06-06 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-27 22:41 Idea for compilation mode Richard Stallman
2003-06-03  7:42 ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-03  8:01   ` David Kastrup
2003-06-03 10:20     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-03 16:14       ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-03 12:11     ` Frank Schmitt
2003-06-03 11:24   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-03 13:14     ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-03 13:42       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-03 14:08         ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-03 14:16           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05  0:07           ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05  0:07       ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-04  8:53   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-04  9:37     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-04 10:23       ` David Kastrup
2003-06-04 10:27     ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-04 15:19       ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-05  6:25         ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-05 13:07           ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-05 13:31             ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-05 13:37           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05 14:00             ` Lute Kamstra
2003-06-05 23:02               ` Miles Bader
2003-06-05 23:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-07 12:01           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-05 10:57       ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-06  1:45         ` Miles Bader
2003-06-06  6:11           ` David Kastrup
2003-06-06  8:58           ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06  9:49             ` David Kastrup
2003-06-06 12:01               ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06 12:41                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-06 13:40                   ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06 17:55                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-11  8:22                       ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06 21:35                     ` Frank Schmitt
2003-06-08  1:09                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-08  2:38                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-09 17:12                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-11  8:36                       ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-11  8:51                         ` David Kastrup
2003-06-12  7:42                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-06 15:40                 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2003-06-06 16:49                   ` Stephan Stahl

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