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From: Juanma Barranquero <lektu@terra.es>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <jmbarranquero@laley.wke.es>
Subject: Re: Idea for compilation mode
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:55:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030606194310.8AB8.LEKTU@terra.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1054906804.3ee099b461f76@webmail.isogmbh.de>

On Fri,  6 Jun 2003 15:40:04 +0200, Stephan Stahl <stl@isogmbh.de> wrote:

> I am not sure where + is on a spanish keyboard but i find AtlGr-9 is very hard 
> to hit on a german keyboard. AlrGr is on the right side and 9 too so one would 
> have to completly leave the homerow with the right hand.

Second row is QWERTYUIOP`+ so yes, + is on the right. I do AltGr + all
the time with the right hand and I don't find it uncomfortable.

> Then again RightCtrl-AltGr-9 is almost imposible to do when typing fluidly?

Yes. But I've never had the need of typing C-] fluidly, usually my slow
way has been enough :)

> C-c C-\ c-backslash-region    => C-c AltGr Right-Ctrl \
> C-M-\ indent-region           => AltGr Right-Ctrl Alt \
> M-} dired-next-marked-file 
> M-{ dired-prev-marked-file
> M-\ delete-horizontal-space   => AltGr Alt \
> C-\ toggle-input-method       => AltGr Right-Ctrl \
> M-~ not-modified              => AltGr Alt 4 4

So I can type most of them (I've not found equivalent combinations for
M-{}).

> That is just to point out someone who wants to look for better bindings and 
> wants to keep non american keyboards in mind has a very difficult job to do.

And my point is that some of us just *use* a national keyboard, and
we're able to make do, if sometimes in a very convoluted way
(fortunately, most of these keys I don't use, and the ones I use I can
rebind to Hyper-something, where Hyper is my left "window" key).

So national keyboards is something that we must live with, and finding
easier keybindings for some of those commands would be *good*.

                                                           /L/e/k/t/u

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-06 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-27 22:41 Idea for compilation mode Richard Stallman
2003-06-03  7:42 ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-03  8:01   ` David Kastrup
2003-06-03 10:20     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-03 16:14       ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-03 12:11     ` Frank Schmitt
2003-06-03 11:24   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-03 13:14     ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-03 13:42       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-03 14:08         ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-03 14:16           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05  0:07           ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05  0:07       ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-04  8:53   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-04  9:37     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-04 10:23       ` David Kastrup
2003-06-04 10:27     ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-04 15:19       ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-05  6:25         ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-05 13:07           ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-05 13:31             ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-05 13:37           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05 14:00             ` Lute Kamstra
2003-06-05 23:02               ` Miles Bader
2003-06-05 23:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-07 12:01           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-05 10:57       ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-06  1:45         ` Miles Bader
2003-06-06  6:11           ` David Kastrup
2003-06-06  8:58           ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06  9:49             ` David Kastrup
2003-06-06 12:01               ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06 12:41                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-06 13:40                   ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06 17:55                     ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2003-06-11  8:22                       ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-06 21:35                     ` Frank Schmitt
2003-06-08  1:09                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-08  2:38                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-09 17:12                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-11  8:36                       ` Stephan Stahl
2003-06-11  8:51                         ` David Kastrup
2003-06-12  7:42                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-06 15:40                 ` David Kastrup
2003-06-06 16:49                   ` Stephan Stahl

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