Re: Sorting of directories in dired

[Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>]

> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:35:53 -0700
> Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
> 
> IOW, aside from putting directories first and not being case-sensitive, the
> Windows listing also throws out the uid and gid, which don't mean a lot for
> Windows.

They might not mean a lot now, but that's only because no one bothered
to write the code to use the Windows equivalents of uid and gid.  I
hope someone will, and rather sooner than later.

> I'm only pointing out that the defcustom code is a bit silly, wrt Windows.

It's certainly not silly on non-Windows platforms.  In the past, I
heard reports of people who were used to ls-lisp and loaded it on
Unix.

> Might as well hard-wire the values for all of these variables (on Windows),
> whatever values you decide upon.

That would make ls-lisp not useful on Unix.  So I don't think it's a
good idea.

>     That's not the Emacs philosophy, AFAIK.  Consistent behavior across
>     platforms is deemed more important than consistency with other
>     platform-specific applications.
> 
> OK. But then why does the code in question attempt to modify the behavior
> for different platforms?

The default behavior is the same.  The rest are options, users are
free to customize them if they wish.

>     The order used by Windows tools is IMHO stupid and user-unfriendly: it
>     assumes, for some reason, that people do not look up directories and
>     files together.
> 
> Fine. It's stupid and user-unfriendly. And it's what people are used to.

Some people are.