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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: hober0@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Sorting of directories in dired
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:44:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42CD9412.5040807@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ud5punwgg.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>??? What does the shell have to do with using `ls'?  You can invoke
>`ls' from _any_ shell running on Windows, including from cmd.exe.
>  
>
I never use ls outside some sh like shell.

>I think you are misreading the principle of consistent cross-platform
>behavior as ``resistance'' or ``a strategy not to help'' w32 users.
>  
>
Yes, sometimes. On the other hand I think that the necessary integration 
with different platforms must not be hampered by the consistent 
cross-platform behaviour. I am much in favor of both these things.

Since Emacs started its route much have changed. The users on different 
platforms now tend to request that applications adhere to what they are 
used to. After that it is fine to add new features and behaviour. So 
integration and cross-platform behaviour need not collide, but 
integration must not be overseen.

On w32 users are used to that applications can be run out of the box and 
that they behave in a well known manner. That is one of the strengths of 
w32. It is both on surface level and on deeper levels.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-07 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-07  9:55 Sorting of directories in dired LENNART BORGMAN
2005-07-07 16:32 ` Edward O'Connor
2005-07-08 20:59   ` Johan Bockgård
2005-07-07 17:56 ` Alex Schroeder
2005-07-07 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 19:53   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07 21:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 20:44       ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2005-07-07 22:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 22:06           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-08 10:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 20:00   ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-06 23:58 Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07  0:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07  6:49   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07  8:02     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07  8:28       ` Edward O'Connor
2005-07-07 10:11         ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07 12:24           ` David Kastrup
2005-07-07 20:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-08  1:12         ` Bill Wohler
2005-07-07 16:43     ` Drew Adams
2005-07-07 21:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 20:35         ` Drew Adams
2005-07-07 22:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 22:53             ` Drew Adams
2005-07-08 10:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-08 17:40             ` Richard M. Stallman

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