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From: Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:02:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <shptr0mfos.fsf@tux.gnu.franken.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030112040605.GA26128@gnu.org> (Miles Bader's message of "Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:06:05 -0500")

Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

> On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:34:38AM +0000, Peter Flynn wrote:

>> as a DTD is *required* by ISO 8859 for all processing.

It's arguable whether editing a SGML file counts as "processing"; if
Emacs/psgml or any other editor would actually check the .sgml file
against the DTD at _all_ stages it would be impossible to open some
file or to tag a "plain" test file ;-)

> It doesn't matter what the `standard requires,' it matters what users
> find convenient.

Yes.

> Think `graceful degradation' -- do the best you can, instead of pedantically
> clinging to standards.

Peter exaggerates :)  IIRC, the standard makes some claims about a
"conforming SGML system" and some such things -- but as long as you
don't call Emacs/sgml-mode.el such a system there is nothing to worry
aobut.

> So when you can't get the SGML DTD, just pretend the file's XML, and you'll
> get `sort of reasonable' results.  It's not `correct,' but it's probably
> still useful, and sounds pretty easy to me*...

Better do it the other way around -- never ever pretend something is
XML if you don't know it for sure.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-14  6:02 UTC|newest]

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2002-12-10  7:05                 ` Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-10 13:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-10 18:27                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2002-12-11 17:44                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-12  3:08                     ` Galen Boyer
2002-12-11 17:44                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-12  6:34                     ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-12  6:57                       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-12  7:53                         ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-12 20:32                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2002-12-13 18:22                       ` Lennart Staflin
2002-12-14 15:15                         ` Felix Gatzemeier
2002-12-15  7:28                           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-16 16:42                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-15 23:39                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-16 22:07                           ` Peter Flynn
2002-12-16 22:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-17 23:34                               ` Ron Ross
2003-01-11 20:10                                 ` [Psgml-devel] " Stefan Monnier
2003-01-12  0:53                                   ` Peter Flynn
2002-12-18  0:34                               ` Peter Flynn
2002-12-18  9:10                                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-18 22:32                                   ` [Psgml-devel] " Peter Flynn
2002-12-19 22:52                                   ` Dave Love
2003-01-12  4:06                                 ` [Psgml-devel] " Miles Bader
2003-01-12 14:11                                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-12 14:29                                   ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-12 16:25                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-12 23:25                                       ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-13 12:33                                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-14  6:02                                   ` Karl Eichwalder [this message]
2003-01-15 22:57                                     ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-15 23:32                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-16 21:00                                         ` [Psgml-devel] " Peter Flynn
2003-01-17 12:42                                           ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-19 22:50                             ` Dave Love
2002-12-31  8:00                               ` Adding PSGML to the Emacs CVS (Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters) Karl Eichwalder
2003-01-02 18:39                                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-11 19:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier

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