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From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: miles@gnu.org,  monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu,
	 handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: problem of define-minor-mode while bootstrapping
Date: 27 Sep 2002 15:09:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzqn0q3wml3.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17ugRr-0005FC-00@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> Would you please be more specific?  I have no idea what that refers
> to.  The start of this conversation was a week or more ago, and I
> don't remember it.  What exactly is the RT that we can't D?

What handa's complaining about -- just define the minor mode
defaulting to on as far as I understand it.
> 
>       I don't see
>     a serious problem with such a change since I, for one, wasn't aware
>     there was such code and the minor mode doc explicitly says that
>     setting the variable doesn't take effect.
> 
> Could you show me the specific documentation?  Maybe it needs to be
> fixed.

E.g.:

   unify-8859-on-encoding-mode's value is t

   Documentation:
   Non-nil if Unify-8859-On-Encoding mode is enabled.
   See the command `unify-8859-on-encoding-mode' for a description of this minor-mode.
|  Setting this variable directly does not take effect;
|  use either M-x customize or the function `unify-8859-on-encoding-mode'.
  
   You can customize this variable.
  
   Defined in `ucs-tables'.
  
No!

> Could you explain more concretely what it is that you're thinking of
> as a change in Emacs's state?

Specifically minor modes being turned on, hooks being installed &c by
loading files, e.g. via customize-group.

> My memory is saying that this code was
> designed to avoid an unwanted change in Emacs's state.

I don't know what that refers to.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-27 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-19 13:20 problem of define-minor-mode while bootstrapping Kenichi Handa
2002-09-19 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-20  0:06   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-20 18:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-21  1:57       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-22 22:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-23  2:08           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-23 18:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-24  3:06               ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-24 15:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-24 23:45                   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-21  2:00       ` Miles Bader
2002-09-22 15:55         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25 22:50           ` Dave Love
2002-09-26 21:45             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-27 14:09               ` Dave Love [this message]
2002-09-28  3:19                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-30  6:26                   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-18  7:00                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-18  8:38                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-20  5:34                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-02 22:49                   ` Dave Love
2002-10-04  3:49                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-22 21:40         ` Stefan Monnier

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