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From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: miles@gnu.org,  monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu,
	 handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: problem of define-minor-mode while bootstrapping
Date: 25 Sep 2002 23:50:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzqbs6l65v2.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17t95S-0001IQ-00@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     > The reason for this little piece of code is so as to call (foo-mode 1) when
>     > people do (setq foo-mode t) in their .emacs and then load foo-mode.el.
>     > But people shouldn't use (setq foo-mode t), they should use (foo-mode 1)
>     > instead anyway.
>     > So I'd rather use that code less often rather than more often.
> 
>     CAn we just get rid of it?
> 
> I'd rather not do that.
> It would be an incompatible change, and I don't see
> enough reason for one.

The fact that you can't currently DTRT seems good enough.  I don't see
a serious problem with such a change since I, for one, wasn't aware
there was such code and the minor mode doc explicitly says that
setting the variable doesn't take effect.

It's also meant to be a requirement that just loading a library
doesn't change Emacs's state, particularly for the sake of Custom; I
think that's documented, but if not, it should be.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-25 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-19 13:20 problem of define-minor-mode while bootstrapping Kenichi Handa
2002-09-19 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-20  0:06   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-20 18:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-21  1:57       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-22 22:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-23  2:08           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-23 18:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-24  3:06               ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-24 15:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-24 23:45                   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-21  2:00       ` Miles Bader
2002-09-22 15:55         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25 22:50           ` Dave Love [this message]
2002-09-26 21:45             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-27 14:09               ` Dave Love
2002-09-28  3:19                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-30  6:26                   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-18  7:00                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-18  8:38                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-20  5:34                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-02 22:49                   ` Dave Love
2002-10-04  3:49                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-22 21:40         ` Stefan Monnier

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